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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy 


The Alden for BB shell cordovan PTB comes in black and color 8 (burgundy). There is no brown. The BB pics are horrible.
The Alden for BB models - in my experience - actually have more egglant hues than do the factory versions. My Alden for BB color 8 PTB has wonderful egglant tones, and is considerably darker than, say, my color 8 chukkas.
Look at this link to get a flavor of what you will actually be getting in color 8 (burgundy).
http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Cordovan-Perforated-Captoes/230H,default,pd.html?dwvar_230H_Color=BLCK&contentpos=4&cgid=0522

Originally Posted by mexicutioner 


that doesn't sound like a simple question to me. simple questions:
what last is it on?
what kind of sole does it have?
what color shell is it? (#8, #4, ravello, etc)
not-simple questions:
what hue of cigar is it?
how will i feel when i put them on?
seriously, what do you expect his answer to your "hue" question to be? seriously, give me three to five possible answers to your "hue of a cigar longwing" question.
if you're asking that kind of question, i'm not surprised he gave you the cold shoulder. buy locally if you need your longwings to be a particular hue of cigar.

Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe 

 

Dear Potential Customer,

 

Olive.

 

Cold and Somewhat Indifferent Regards,

Adam of AoC

Originally Posted by interlockingny 


Your frustration is justified. The better way to have gone about it would have been for them to contact customers that paid in full and had their orders refunded to see if they were still interested in the pair.

Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe 

 

It is a perfectly simple question. A question regarding hue is objective. The fit/feel question that I assume you intended as a similar example is subjective, making it far more difficult if not impossible. I asked if the cigar has more of an olive hue (as was evident in early butts) or more of a red hue (which is more common in later butts). Those are the only two options necessary to answer the question. As "three to five" answers were not even possible, yes, I would consider this an easy question to ask a proprietor of a luxury good. Given the Adam makes a living from selling only Aldens and has handled hundreds of cigar shoes, I would expect him to be able to answer a question that has only two possible answers. More olive, or more red. That's it. He could've written me the following email with which I would have been satisfied:

 

Dear Potential Customer,

 

Olive.

 

Cold and Somewhat Indifferent Regards,

Adam of AoC

 

If you're happy with his service, keep buying from him. I'm not telling you what kind of service to deem acceptable when buying your $700 shoes; don't tell me. 

 

Today I'm wearing the cigar longwings I bought from Frans Boone. 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy 

FWIW, I have had great customer service from TSM. And actually from one of the owners himself, on more than one occasion.

Originally Posted by Burton 

Throwing this out to the group but this is more of a question for Sevenfold,
I have the Alden for BB shell blucher on the Snap last - 9.5D.
I wear a 9D in Barrie and have a number of those.
I have a pair of NST's on the Aberdeen in 9.5D
I purchased a pair of medallion toe Blucher's, also on the Aberdeen in 9.5D, and they are too big.
My first question, has anyone seen this variability on shoes made on the same last? (NST and Blucher)
My second, the Snap last appears to have a wider toe box and a wider heel, am I correct in this assumption? Does an "E" width Aberdeen fit like a "D" width Snap?[/quote]

First question: yes; indeed I have seen (and experienced) variation in the same model on the same last. Advice: try another medallion toe Blucher on the Aberdeen in 9.5D.

Second question: For my foot shape, the Snap last and Aberdeen fit very similar. However, I can wear - and have worn - an Aberdeen lasted shoe in 9.5C, whereas a 9.5C in the Snap is too snug.

Originally Posted by mtc2000 

Yes, I had good services from the Zapatka's (Ed, Vicky). Mark W. was so so. He did manage to screw up an order by sending me a single right boot, instead of the left + right pair.

Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe 

 

It is a perfectly simple question. A question regarding hue is objective. The fit/feel question that I assume you intended as a similar example is subjective, making it far more difficult if not impossible. I asked if the cigar has more of an olive hue (as was evident in early butts) or more of a red hue (which is more common in later butts). Those are the only two options necessary to answer the question. As "three to five" answers were not even possible, yes, I would consider this an easy question to ask a proprietor of a luxury good. Given the Adam makes a living from selling only Aldens and has handled hundreds of cigar shoes, I would expect him to be able to answer a question that has only two possible answers. More olive, or more red. That's it. He could've written me the following email with which I would have been satisfied:

 

Dear Potential Customer,

 

Olive.

 

Cold and Somewhat Indifferent Regards,

Adam of AoC

 

If you're happy with his service, keep buying from him. I'm not telling you what kind of service to deem acceptable when buying your $700 shoes; don't tell me. 

 

Today I'm wearing the cigar longwings I bought from Frans Boone. 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy 


Thanks!

Originally Posted by Burton 

Throwing this out to the group but this is more of a question for Sevenfold,
I have the Alden for BB shell blucher on the Snap last - 9.5D.
I wear a 9D in Barrie and have a number of those.
I have a pair of NST's on the Aberdeen in 9.5D
I purchased a pair of medallion toe Blucher's, also on the Aberdeen in 9.5D, and they are too big.
My first question, has anyone seen this variability on shoes made on the same last? (NST and Blucher)
My second, the Snap last appears to have a wider toe box and a wider heel, am I correct in this assumption? Does an "E" width Aberdeen fit like a "D" width Snap?

Originally Posted by Burton 

Throwing this out to the group but this is more of a question for Sevenfold,
I have the Alden for BB shell blucher on the Snap last - 9.5D.
I wear a 9D in Barrie and have a number of those.
I have a pair of NST's on the Aberdeen in 9.5D
I purchased a pair of medallion toe Blucher's, also on the Aberdeen in 9.5D, and they are too big.
My first question, has anyone seen this variability on shoes made on the same last? (NST and Blucher)
My second, the Snap last appears to have a wider toe box and a wider heel, am I correct in this assumption? Does an "E" width Aberdeen fit like a "D" width Snap?