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post #37966 of 94013
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Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe View Post

 

It is a perfectly simple question. A question regarding hue is objective. The fit/feel question that I assume you intended as a similar example is subjective, making it far more difficult if not impossible. I asked if the cigar has more of an olive hue (as was evident in early butts) or more of a red hue (which is more common in later butts). Those are the only two options necessary to answer the question. As "three to five" answers were not even possible, yes, I would consider this an easy question to ask a proprietor of a luxury good. Given the Adam makes a living from selling only Aldens and has handled hundreds of cigar shoes, I would expect him to be able to answer a question that has only two possible answers. More olive, or more red. That's it. He could've written me the following email with which I would have been satisfied:

 

Dear Potential Customer,

 

Olive.

 

Cold and Somewhat Indifferent Regards,

Adam of AoC

 

If you're happy with his service, keep buying from him. I'm not telling you what kind of service to deem acceptable when buying your $700 shoes; don't tell me. 

 

Today I'm wearing the cigar longwings I bought from Frans Boone. 

 

 

 

700

 

 

700

 

Which hue are those? Seems pretty balanced between red and olive. 

post #37967 of 94013
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

FWIW, I have had great customer service from TSM. And actually from one of the owners himself, on more than one occasion.

Yes, I had good services from the Zapatka's (Ed, Vicky). Mark W. was so so. He did manage to screw up an order by sending me a single right boot, instead of the left + right pair.
post #37968 of 94013
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Throwing this out to the group but this is more of a question for Sevenfold,
I have the Alden for BB shell blucher on the Snap last - 9.5D.
I wear a 9D in Barrie and have a number of those.
I have a pair of NST's on the Aberdeen in 9.5D
I purchased a pair of medallion toe Blucher's, also on the Aberdeen in 9.5D, and they are too big.
My first question, has anyone seen this variability on shoes made on the same last? (NST and Blucher)
My second, the Snap last appears to have a wider toe box and a wider heel, am I correct in this assumption? Does an "E" width Aberdeen fit like a "D" width Snap?[/
quote]

First question: yes; indeed I have seen (and experienced) variation in the same model on the same last. Advice: try another medallion toe Blucher on the Aberdeen in 9.5D.

Second question: For my foot shape, the Snap last and Aberdeen fit very similar. However, I can wear - and have worn - an Aberdeen lasted shoe in 9.5C, whereas a 9.5C in the Snap is too snug.
post #37969 of 94013
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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post

Yes, I had good services from the Zapatka's (Ed, Vicky). Mark W. was so so. He did manage to screw up an order by sending me a single right boot, instead of the left + right pair.

Getting just one boot is never good. biggrin.gif
post #37970 of 94013
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Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe View Post

 

It is a perfectly simple question. A question regarding hue is objective. The fit/feel question that I assume you intended as a similar example is subjective, making it far more difficult if not impossible. I asked if the cigar has more of an olive hue (as was evident in early butts) or more of a red hue (which is more common in later butts). Those are the only two options necessary to answer the question. As "three to five" answers were not even possible, yes, I would consider this an easy question to ask a proprietor of a luxury good. Given the Adam makes a living from selling only Aldens and has handled hundreds of cigar shoes, I would expect him to be able to answer a question that has only two possible answers. More olive, or more red. That's it. He could've written me the following email with which I would have been satisfied:

 

Dear Potential Customer,

 

Olive.

 

Cold and Somewhat Indifferent Regards,

Adam of AoC

 

If you're happy with his service, keep buying from him. I'm not telling you what kind of service to deem acceptable when buying your $700 shoes; don't tell me. 

 

Today I'm wearing the cigar longwings I bought from Frans Boone. 

 

 

 

700

 

 

700

I now must go and cop a pair of red socks!! laugh.gif Simply beautiful with the cigar and denim!

post #37971 of 94013

Oh, man I am an idiot.  So I actually ended up bidding on and winning a pair of tassel mocs off eBay and didn't pay attention to the width, just the size.  I just tried them on and I'm like WTH, I can barely get my feet into these...turns out they are 9.5 A/C width and not D.  No way these are going to stretch (or can be stretched), right?  They are very well used.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330833361816?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

post #37972 of 94013
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Throwing this out to the group but this is more of a question for Sevenfold,
I have the Alden for BB shell blucher on the Snap last - 9.5D.
I wear a 9D in Barrie and have a number of those.
I have a pair of NST's on the Aberdeen in 9.5D
I purchased a pair of medallion toe Blucher's, also on the Aberdeen in 9.5D, and they are too big.
My first question, has anyone seen this variability on shoes made on the same last? (NST and Blucher)
My second, the Snap last appears to have a wider toe box and a wider heel, am I correct in this assumption? Does an "E" width Aberdeen fit like a "D" width Snap?[/
quote]
First question: yes; indeed I have seen (and experienced) variation in the same model on the same last. Advice: try another medallion toe Blucher on the Aberdeen in 9.5D.
Second question: For my foot shape, the Snap last and Aberdeen fit very similar. However, I can wear - and have worn - an Aberdeen lasted shoe in 9.5C, whereas a 9.5C in the Snap is too snug.

Thanks!
post #37973 of 94013
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Whiskey LWB
post #37974 of 94013
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Throwing this out to the group but this is more of a question for Sevenfold,
I have the Alden for BB shell blucher on the Snap last - 9.5D.
I wear a 9D in Barrie and have a number of those.
I have a pair of NST's on the Aberdeen in 9.5D
I purchased a pair of medallion toe Blucher's, also on the Aberdeen in 9.5D, and they are too big.
My first question, has anyone seen this variability on shoes made on the same last? (NST and Blucher)
My second, the Snap last appears to have a wider toe box and a wider heel, am I correct in this assumption? Does an "E" width Aberdeen fit like a "D" width Snap?

I've had a number of sizing discrepancies over the years with the Aberdeen being the worst. I have pairs that run from 9.5D to 10.5D and they all fit the same. I also got a pair of PTBs once on the Barrie that were insanely big for their size. Long story short, best to always try them on and not trust the size.
post #37975 of 94013
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Throwing this out to the group but this is more of a question for Sevenfold,
I have the Alden for BB shell blucher on the Snap last - 9.5D.
I wear a 9D in Barrie and have a number of those.
I have a pair of NST's on the Aberdeen in 9.5D
I purchased a pair of medallion toe Blucher's, also on the Aberdeen in 9.5D, and they are too big.
My first question, has anyone seen this variability on shoes made on the same last? (NST and Blucher)
My second, the Snap last appears to have a wider toe box and a wider heel, am I correct in this assumption? Does an "E" width Aberdeen fit like a "D" width Snap?

^^^ All these all shell cordovan? Or different materials?
post #37976 of 94013


#8 PTBs today.
post #37977 of 94013
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Originally Posted by CTYGGG View Post

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Whiskey LWB
Just beautiful
post #37978 of 94013
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Originally Posted by ecox View Post



#8 PTBs today.


Absolutely gorgeous!

post #37979 of 94013
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Originally Posted by ecox View Post


#8 PTBs today.

A classic. Wonderful.
post #37980 of 94013
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Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe View Post

 

It is a perfectly simple question. A question regarding hue is objective. The fit/feel question that I assume you intended as a similar example is subjective, making it far more difficult if not impossible. I asked if the cigar has more of an olive hue (as was evident in early butts) or more of a red hue (which is more common in later butts). Those are the only two options necessary to answer the question. As "three to five" answers were not even possible, yes, I would consider this an easy question to ask a proprietor of a luxury good. Given the Adam makes a living from selling only Aldens and has handled hundreds of cigar shoes, I would expect him to be able to answer a question that has only two possible answers. More olive, or more red. That's it. He could've written me the following email with which I would have been satisfied:

 

Dear Potential Customer,

 

Olive.

 

Cold and Somewhat Indifferent Regards,

Adam of AoC

 

If you're happy with his service, keep buying from him. I'm not telling you what kind of service to deem acceptable when buying your $700 shoes; don't tell me. 

 

Today I'm wearing the cigar longwings I bought from Frans Boone. 

 

 

 

700

 

 

700

I have to side with mexicutioner on this one.  You are asking for an opinion on shade, which is subjective.  Two people could have differing opinions on this issue.  Something like "color name" or "last name" or "size" falls under the realm of objective.  While I'm not defending AoC in any way, this isn't a binary question you're asking.

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