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11/2/12 at 11:04am

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Originally Posted by BootSpell

Gorgeous! Are those on the Grant last?

yes, grant last
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post #37082 of 51732

11/2/12 at 11:58am

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent

That is simply a hand-sewn apron, not a NST (Norwegian Split Toe). The "U-Tip" (V-Tip?) Aldens that I have seen are also different construction. Mr. Chorizo is correct that the construction of those is using a reverse machine stitch, and is actually bringing together 3 separate pieces of leather. The apron on those is actually a "plug" that is sewn on using a machine stitch (see also the JM Weston Demi-Chasse, and various Allen Edmonds models like the Walton, Delray, and La Salle). The Norwegian Split Toes, and hand-sewn apron models that Alden makes are simply a decorative stitch on what would otherwise be a plain toe shoe. They have also made some Indy Shoes that look just like this, and it is the same stitching style used on the Indy Boots. Those are definitely beautiful shoes though!!!

Ok...so what does Alden call the style in question? As far as I know Alden does not call this a "hand-sewn apron" or "HSA".

This is from Leather Soul's page

"I’ve been wearing these cigar U-Tips twice a week for about 3 years now. I’ll be sending them in for restoration soon. I like the change in color they’ve gone through so I will make sure to tell Alden not to polish the uppers when they do the restoration.

Laurence O."

I know LS is not the be all and end all, but I'm sure they know more about shoe designations than you or I...

V-Tip

U-Tip

But...i've been wrong many times before.

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11/2/12 at 12:20pm

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Originally Posted by blue collar

Ok...so what does Alden call the style in question? As far as I know Alden does not call this a "hand-sewn apron" or "HSA".
This is from Leather Soul's page
"I’ve been wearing these cigar U-Tips twice a week for about 3 years now. I’ll be sending them in for restoration soon. I like the change in color they’ve gone through so I will make sure to tell Alden not to polish the uppers when they do the restoration.
Laurence O."
I know LS is not the be all and end all, but I'm sure they know more about shoe designations than you or I...
V-Tip

U-Tip

But...i've been wrong many times before.

I didn't say in my post that those are not U-Tips. I was addressing Mr. Chorizo's comment that the V-Tips are made using a machine stitching technique using separate pieces of leather, as seen in the photo you posted above. The gentleman that I quoted and addressed in my response seemed to be asking if these were a NST without the middle seam. I also didn't say that Alden calls them "HSA." I was simply stating that they are hand-sewn aprons, which seems to disqualify them from being V-Tips based on previously cited examples. I don't know what Alden calls them, and if Leather Soul calls them U-Tips then I wouldn't see any reason to argue with it. It is a u-shaped apron after all.

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11/2/12 at 12:50pm

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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent

I didn't say in my post that those are not U-Tips. I was addressing Mr. Chorizo's comment that the V-Tips are made using a machine stitching technique using separate pieces of leather, as seen in the photo you posted above. The gentleman that I quoted and addressed in my response seemed to be asking if these were a NST without the middle seam. I also didn't say that Alden calls them "HSA." I was simply stating that they are hand-sewn aprons, which seems to disqualify them from being V-Tips based on previously cited examples. I don't know what Alden calls them, and if Leather Soul calls them U-Tips then I wouldn't see any reason to argue with it. It is a u-shaped apron after all.

Got ya

If I misquoted you, I apologize

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post #37085 of 51732

11/2/12 at 1:39pm

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Just pre-ordered a piar of Adlen Wintip boots in Ravello.

The wait begins.

It maybe September or October of next year.

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11/2/12 at 1:44pm

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Originally Posted by dddrees

Just pre-ordered a piar of Adlen Wintip boots in Ravello.

The wait begins.

It maybe September or October of next year.

from where?

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11/2/12 at 1:49pm

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Originally Posted by Papa Doble

That's too bad, but hopefully you should be able to sell them here for a decent percentage of the purchase price. In the future, I'd recommend going through a retailer with a good return policy, such as TSM.
It would be good to know how you intend to wear them, but I'd probably go with a PTB or chukka in #8 or cigar. You already have some brogues, but you might also consider the RL Marlow wingtips. With the current sale going on, they come to $505.75 + tax.

Took your advice and posted the black PTBs on the SF classifieds. Thanks for the tip, Papa. Next time I will learn. Meanwhile, someone will profit from the errors of my ways...

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11/2/12 at 1:54pm

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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

from where?

TSM

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11/2/12 at 2:02pm

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Originally Posted by blue collar

Got ya

If I misquoted you, I apologize

No worries! Just wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstood.

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post #37090 of 51732

11/2/12 at 2:13pm

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Is this the same boot in the same color? Color looks much nicer on the first one but they are both just listed as snuff

http://www.trunkclothiers.com/brands/alden/plain-toe-boot.html

http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/JCrewingoodcompany/Alden/PRDOVR~19204/19204.jsp
19204_EC0327_d1?$pdp_fs418$

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11/2/12 at 2:15pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

Just pre-ordered a piar of Adlen Wintip boots in Ravello.

The wait begins.

It maybe September or October of next year.

i highly doubt it'll be next year.. some people have been waiting a couple years already.

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11/2/12 at 2:28pm

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Originally Posted by trig

i highly doubt it'll be next year.. some people have been waiting a couple years already.

Wow I didn't realize.

The gal said it could be a bit later, but I got the impression it might be a month or only two later at the most.

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11/2/12 at 2:44pm

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Originally Posted by ETW

Is this the same boot in the same color? Color looks much nicer on the first one but they are both just listed as snuff Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

http://www.trunkclothiers.com/brands/alden/plain-toe-boot.html

http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/JCrewingoodcompany/Alden/PRDOVR~19204/19204.jsp
19204_EC0327_d1?$pdp_fs418$

Viberg makes a much better looking boot in this vein.

I expect to see my pre-ordered Ravello boots sometime this decade.

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11/2/12 at 2:53pm