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Haha, so Kudu leather shoes are not made from the the animal, Kudu?

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Originally Posted by wigglr View Post

Haha, so Kudu leather shoes are not made from the the animal, Kudu?

"Horween’s kudu leather is essentially heavily oiled and hand treated calfskin, done in the same procedure as shell cordovan." - Leather Soul
post #36198 of 97099
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Originally Posted by TWorksheets View Post

Can anyone point me in the direction of an online store that stocks a black calf PTB shoe or boot?


black PTB always looked too much to me like skechers or something.

post #36199 of 97099

wow...and i also thought kudu was actually made from kudu...like the AE broadmoor (?) offering from years back (butt-ugly TBH).
 

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black PTB always looked too much to me like skechers or something.

i completely agree. i actually only own various alden boots and various alden loafers. i think boots and loafers is where alden excels. i don't own any alden lace ups. the only alden laceup i would even consider is an LWB... but even then i think there are better constructed options for cheaper.

i know... blasphemy.
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

i completely agree. i actually only own various alden boots and various alden loafers. i think boots and loafers is where alden excels. i don't own any alden lace ups. the only alden laceup i would even consider is an LWB... but even then i think there are better constructed options for cheaper.
i know... blasphemy.

I think this, and responses to previously posed questions such as "name your top 3 Aldens," just illustrates how a variety of people wear and get different use out of Aldens. SpooPoker and mcarthur are two examples of guys who wear Aldens and are stylish in their own, different ways. Sure, I don't see SpooPoker wearing a PTB any time soon, but I've seen him wear full strap penny loafers and suede tassel loafers, if memory serves.
post #36202 of 97099
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

i completely agree. i actually only own various alden boots and various alden loafers. i think boots and loafers is where alden excels. i don't own any alden lace ups. the only alden laceup i would even consider is an LWB... but even then i think there are better constructed options for cheaper.
i know... blasphemy.

There is no company that year in and year out offers the selection of shell cordovan lace-ups as Alden does, at any price point.
post #36203 of 97099
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

There is no company that year in and year out offers the selection of shell cordovan lace-ups as Alden does, at any price point.

True story.
post #36204 of 97099
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Originally Posted by DCRoyal View Post

Ive seen a few opinions as I've searched this forum but was curious to know if anyone has owned both kudu and tobacco chamois and might be able to speak to the comparative advantages/disadvantages to both. I'm specifically considering the Indy in either. Thanks in advance.

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Not kudu, but I can share my experience with tobacco chamois.  I got these longwings from Leffot last year...

Alpina has the tobacco chamois. I do not but I can supplement his response on that leather with my experience with the kudu. Put us together and you sort of get your complete answer. lol

I have the kudu longwings from Leffot on the plantation crepe sole. I wore them all through the late winter and spring in the foul weather (rain, slush, mud, what little snow we had this year), and just started wearing them again for the fall this month. I have given them no treatment except hitting them with the brush after each wearing and they still look brand new. The natural oils (or rather however Horween and Alden treat them) make this shoe seem nearly impenetrable to the elements while still feeling nice and supple.

I have handled the tobacco chamois (but not worn) and I like the color quite a bit more than the kudu but I think the waxiness of the kudu beats the chamois in terms of durability.

Here's some old photos of my kudu longwings - I'll have to get a photo out in the elements sometime.


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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

There is no company that year in and year out offers the selection of shell cordovan lace-ups as Alden does, at any price point.

you're absolutely correct.

though i'm not speaking expressly about cordovan. i would never own a cordovan dress shoe. i think the shine is tacky/cheap looking in a formal setting. IMO, calf looks far more elegant on a proper black balmoral.

there are also far better constructed shoes than alden, i own 5 pairs of alden's, 2 john lobb's, 1 church's, and two crockett's. far and away, they are all constructed more precisely and to a higher standard than alden. of my 5 alden's... 3 have had factory damage. one a tear in the brogueing, loose threads, gaps in the heel tap, etc. i don't love them any less, for the stuff they are good at, they are the best... custom make ups, boots, etc.

on the flip, no boot looks as good as a sleek cordovan boot. cordovan looks fantastic on a penny (LHS) or nearly any loafer for that matter.
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post #36208 of 97099
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

you're absolutely correct.
though i'm not speaking expressly about cordovan. i would never own a cordovan dress shoe. i think the shine is tacky/cheap looking in a formal setting. IMO, calf looks far more elegant on a proper black balmoral.
there are also far better constructed shoes than alden, i own 5 pairs of alden's, 2 john lobb's, 1 church's, and two crockett's. far and away, they are all constructed more precisely and to a higher standard than alden. of my 5 alden's... 3 have had factory damage. one a tear in the brogueing, loose threads, gaps in the heel tap, etc. i don't love them any less, for the stuff they are good at, they are the best... custom make ups, boots, etc.
on the flip, no boot looks as good as a sleek cordovan boot. cordovan looks fantastic on a penny (LHS) or nearly any loafer for that matter.

Agree with this post. The British makers have far better lasting, detailing, and quality control than Alden. None offer the range of cordovan boots of Alden however.

FWIW I feel that cordovan boots only look "sleek" when the leather is new/shiny and the wavy creasing throws off the look for worn pairs. Also I would note that C&J has some cordovan loafer models that are more elegantly lasted and constructed (e.g. no 360 degree welt) than Aldens.
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

you're absolutely correct.
though i'm not speaking expressly about cordovan. i would never own a cordovan dress shoe. i think the shine is tacky/cheap looking in a formal setting. IMO, calf looks far more elegant on a proper black balmoral.
there are also far better constructed shoes than alden, i own 5 pairs of alden's, 2 john lobb's, 1 church's, and two crockett's. far and away, they are all constructed more precisely and to a higher standard than alden. of my 5 alden's... 3 have had factory damage. one a tear in the brogueing, loose threads, gaps in the heel tap, etc. i don't love them any less, for the stuff they are good at, they are the best... custom make ups, boots, etc.
on the flip, no boot looks as good as a sleek cordovan boot. cordovan looks fantastic on a penny (LHS) or nearly any loafer for that matter.

I think the majority on this thread say that is that if you wan a calfskin dress shoe, there are at least comparable options (and likely better options) than Alden, but if you want a cordovan "dress shoe" (its uncertain if you want to call them "formal" or not), then Alden is basically at the top in style and variety (quality may be behind the RL Marlows). The desirability of cordovan shoes is debatable, but many (including me) like them a lot.

EDIT - And as I and others have mentioned many times, sleekness is not necessarily a virtue, it is a style choice (I have both sleek and chunkier styles of shoes)
post #36210 of 97099
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Originally Posted by sqroot3 View Post


black PTB always looked too much to me like skechers or something.

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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

i completely agree. i actually only own various alden boots and various alden loafers. i think boots and loafers is where alden excels. i don't own any alden lace ups. the only alden laceup i would even consider is an LWB... but even then i think there are better constructed options for cheaper.
i know... blasphemy.

Different strokes for different folks I guess. These PTB boots from Alden of Carmel (special order for Jimmy Au's) are pretty much the perfect boot in my book:



Forgive my ignorance, but is there any way to get my hands on a special make-up such as these if the original stockist is sold out?
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