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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

What's Barrie last sizing like? Tts?

Most go half size down

Also Francos had size 9 and 13 kudu chukkas and a size 11 loafer on sale:
http://www.francos.com/items/item.asp?sku5=35346
http://www.francos.com/items/item.asp?sku5=35346

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post #36122 of 91530
Thanks
post #36123 of 91530
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

For me down .5 size and 1 width.  9.5D TTS, 9C Barrie

+1. That's if you're lucky enough to have the option. Otherwise just .5
post #36124 of 91530
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

What's Barrie last sizing like? Tts?

TTS - 9.5D
Barrie - 9D (can go 9.5C)
post #36125 of 91530
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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

Still bullshit - why would you crease shoes you know you're not gonna keep? Makes it a huge hassle for the next buyer to have to return and the store now has a pair of non-new shells.

As someone who has tried on numerous cordovans at Alden NYC and Leffot, sometimes creasing can't be avoided when trying them on. Some buyers will care, some won't (I lean towards the don't care camp)
post #36126 of 91530
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

As someone who has tried on numerous cordovans at Alden NYC and Leffot, sometimes creasing can't be avoided when trying them on. Some buyers will care, some won't (I lean towards the don't care camp)

True, and I'd agree to some extent that I was a bit extreme in my response. But if you really want to try sizing out, why not order calf or suede so you can actually walk a bit. I know sizing is a bit different between different materials but you can minimize the creasing. And trying on in store is a little different, as the SA may give you a pair that others tried on before, or can supervise it. I've had stores give me 25% off for the slightest of creasing on cordovan and I didn't ask for it
post #36127 of 91530
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post


That isn't really fair to Pappa.  Brand new shells crease so easily.  Just putting your foot into the shoe and standing up will put a slight crease in them.  I've tried some on at Alden DC and it's virtually impossible to avoid and their salespeople there know this.  Besides, the crease on that #8 PTB pictured earlier hardly qualifies as creased.  Adam from Alden of Carmel would not cry foul with that.
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

As someone who has tried on numerous cordovans at Alden NYC and Leffot, sometimes creasing can't be avoided when trying them on. Some buyers will care, some won't (I lean towards the don't care camp)

I've always wondered how salespeople deal with this in store, since I imagine that in person, the idea of not being able to walk around in the shoes to assess fit would reveal its ridiculousness. I sympathize though with people who want no evidence of try on on their new shoes, and I try to be gentle. Those who really care should make sure to work with no crease policy retailers IMO.
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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

True, and I'd agree to some extent that I was a bit extreme in my response. But if you really want to try sizing out, why not order calf or suede so you can actually walk a bit. I know sizing is a bit different between different materials but you can minimize the creasing. And trying on in store is a little different, as the SA may give you a pair that others tried on before, or can supervise it. I've had stores give me 25% off for the slightest of creasing on cordovan and I didn't ask for it

This was not the case for me, but I understand your suggestion to order calf or suede if you absolutely know you're not going to keep them.
post #36128 of 91530
Got these today. Not my first Alden shoes but my first Alden LWBs. I think these are more than just shoes.

post #36129 of 91530
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Originally Posted by Tommi View Post

Got these today. Not my first Alden shoes but my first Alden LWBs. I think these are more than just shoes.

nice. a buddy of mine just had his bag stolen on a bus and lost his. j.crew waxed LWB, right?
post #36130 of 91530
^ That's unfortunate. Yes, they are J. Crew waxed LWBs.
post #36131 of 91530
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I've always wondered how salespeople deal with this in store, since I imagine that in person, the idea of not being able to walk around in the shoes to assess fit would reveal its ridiculousness. I sympathize though with people who want no evidence of try on on their new shoes, and I try to be gentle. Those who really care should make sure to work with no crease policy retailers IMO.

I know that at Alden NYC, people are trying on cordovan models constantly, rare ones included. Of course, if you reserve a shoe ahead of time at any retailer, that pair shouldn't be tried on. But for shoes that are "stocked," retailers seem to let walk-in customers try them on to ascertain the fit. I haven't heard of any brick and mortar retailers restricting this. For example, I haven't heard of someone attempting to try on a ravello model but having a salesperson say "try on this calfskin or this color 8 model instead, it's the same size and last." Of course, walking a few steps on carpet is different than wearing a shoe for hours, but small creasing can occur.
post #36132 of 91530
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

I know that at Alden NYC, people are trying on cordovan models constantly, rare ones included. Of course, if you reserve a shoe ahead of time at any retailer, that pair shouldn't be tried on. But for shoes that are "stocked," retailers seem to let walk-in customers try them on to ascertain the fit. I haven't heard of any brick and mortar retailers restricting this. For example, I haven't heard of someone attempting to try on a ravello model but having a salesperson say "try on this calfskin or this color 8 model instead, it's the same size and last." Of course, walking a few steps on carpet is different than wearing a shoe for hours, but small creasing can occur.

I would be okay with this, unless I already knew my size on the last of the given shoe. I imagine, though, that it could be off-putting to potential customers who aren't familiar with these issues.
post #36133 of 91530
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I would be okay with this, unless I already knew my size on the last of the given shoe. I imagine, though, that it could be off-putting to potential customers who aren't familiar with these issues.

Thing is, a lot of shoe customers might not know what a "last" is, and even more of them will want to see how a particular shoe looks on their foot
post #36134 of 91530
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Thing is, a lot of shoe customers might not know what a "last" is, and even more of them will want to see how a particular shoe looks on their foot

Right, exactly. That's why I think potential customers would be confused and/or irritated if they were told that they couldn't try on the particular shoe they're interested in without first trying on a similar shoe on the same last.
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Originally Posted by Tommi View Post

Got these today. Not my first Alden shoes but my first Alden LWBs. I think these are more than just shoes.

Great photo and nice looking shoe. Enjoy wearing them.
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