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post #35806 of 86759
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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

right, I agree with your thinking
I mean, my answer has basically been the same for years now:
if you are trying to decide between a rare color shell or #8, get the rare color. burgundy shell is always going to be much easier to find down the road, and also can be bought a ton cheaper if you are ok with vintage Florsheim/Hanover, which were probably better made than Alden today.
for anyone on a budget or picking and choosing between models, buying a #8 LWB or PTB from Alden for $600 or w/e...I think that's pretty crazy. lurk on B/S or Ebay and get some barely worn vintage model for $150.

1. Agreed - on going with a rare shell color over color 8 if both are available and the color 8 model is one that is regularly available.
2. My color 8 LWBs (vintage Florsheim Imperial; - 1972) have a much slimmer silhouette than do my Alden LWBs and are, therefore, IMO, dressier. I think I could drive over them with my car and they'd still be fine structurally.
3. Buying a color 8 LWB or PTB at regular price (and from a retailer that allows try on) is wise, IMO.
4. Color 8 is still the king. nod[1].gif

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post #35807 of 86759
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I guess this advice isn't too surprising, and I certainly love the shoe. Interesting that it's easily the winner to you SFTG. I was thinking I'd hold off on getting another brogue, but I'm sure a #8 LWB is in my future either way.

My first choice for you would be something different than any of your 3 stated choices, but that wasn't the question. biggrin.gif And if you've narrowed it down to those 3, I respect that.
post #35808 of 86759
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

My first choice for you would be something different than any of your 3 stated choices, but that wasn't the question. biggrin.gif And if you've narrowed it down to those 3, I respect that.

I should've clarified that the 3 I listed are my current plan, but I'm passing it by you guys to get some opinions. So, I'd be particularly interested in hearing anything you would suggest in place of the 3 I listed.
post #35809 of 86759
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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

right, I agree with your thinking
I mean, my answer has basically been the same for years now:
if you are trying to decide between a rare color shell or #8, get the rare color. burgundy shell is always going to be much easier to find down the road, and also can be bought a ton cheaper if you are ok with vintage Florsheim/Hanover, which were probably better made than Alden today.
for anyone on a budget or picking and choosing between models, buying a #8 LWB or PTB from Alden for $650 or w/e...I think that's pretty crazy. lurk on B/S or Ebay and get some barely worn vintage model for $150.
if you have unlimited funds, then disregard my advice!

It is crazy how cheap some of these models go for on ebay. In early 2011 I scored a NOS vintage Hanover PTB (late 1970's) in color 4 for $175. I felt almost guilty as it was quite apparent the seller had no idea the real worth of this shoe.
post #35810 of 86759
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Originally Posted by sqroot3 View Post

This is tempting, but I have no idea how the sizing on vintage shoes compares with the commoner Alden lasts...and on top of this, there are individual sellers' varying return policies to contend with. Does anyone know how Florsheim/Hanover sizing compares to the Alden lasts?

I have one pair of old Florsheim Imperial LWB's in #8, so my experience is limited, but I went with my Barrie size & they're spot on.
post #35811 of 86759
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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

right, I agree with your thinking
I mean, my answer has basically been the same for years now:
if you are trying to decide between a rare color shell or #8, get the rare color. burgundy shell is always going to be much easier to find down the road, and also can be bought a ton cheaper if you are ok with vintage Florsheim/Hanover, which were probably better made than Alden today.
for anyone on a budget or picking and choosing between models, buying a #8 LWB or PTB from Alden for $650 or w/e...I think that's pretty crazy. lurk on B/S or Ebay and get some barely worn vintage model for $150.
if you have unlimited funds, then disregard my advice!

I would say it's more reasonable to pay $600 for a LHW or LWB than for a rare shell color, assuming your goal is to build a solid wardrobe rather than build bragging rights on the Style Forum official Alden Thread.
post #35812 of 86759
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

It is crazy how cheap some of these models go for on ebay. In early 2011 I scored a NOS vintage Hanover PTB (late 1970's) in color 4 for $175. I felt almost guilty as it was quite apparent the seller had no idea the real worth of this shoe.

congrats on that score

I have AE in "black cherry" shell (which was the marketed term they used in their catalogs) - which to my eye is like #6 - and I have Hanover in a nearly identical color. Was yours marked #4 in some way, or is that just what your eyes are telling you ?

the recent #4 from Alden I saw was much more RED than the black cherry I have, which has more burgundy overtones.

my vintage shoes next to my current C&J burgundy shell PTB



vintage black cherry vs vintage burgundy



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post #35813 of 86759
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Originally Posted by ElDave View Post

I would say it's more reasonable to pay $600 for a LHW or LWB than for a rare shell color, assuming your goal is to build a solid wardrobe rather than build bragging rights on the Style Forum official Alden Thread.

I can't speak for makewayhomer, but my goal is definitely to build a solid wardrobe that suits my needs. Granted, I picked up the ravello PTBs partly because they are rare, but mainly because I happen to love the PTB in that color, and also because I think it will suit my needs well.
post #35814 of 86759

I'm grabbing a pair of shoes 10.5D on Grant last. Do you think I should use AE M or L shoe trees?

post #35815 of 86759
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


It is crazy how cheap some of these models go for on ebay. In early 2011 I scored a NOS vintage Hanover PTB (late 1970's) in color 4 for $175. I felt almost guilty as it was quite apparent the seller had no idea the real worth of this shoe.

 

That's a great pick-up

post #35816 of 86759
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Originally Posted by ElDave View Post

I would say it's more reasonable to pay $600 for a LHW or LWB than for a rare shell color, assuming your goal is to build a solid wardrobe rather than build bragging rights on the Style Forum official Alden Thread.

well, again, if your goal is to build a wardrobe that means acquiring different colors types and shoe styles. the burgundy shell LWB and PTB are 100% staples - but they are also easy to find at equivalent quality and much lower price than from Alden. but cigar is also a pretty important part of that wardrobe, and even ravello will functionality look a lot better with some outfits than #8 will. so they are not just Ferrari style exotics, they are also functionally very useful. and, they are very hard or impossible to find at any kind of discount.

so I'm just saying if you have say $1,500 dollars allocated to shoe purchases over the next 2 years and want to start building a small and useful collection, I think it's a better choice to pay full retail for the stuff you absolutely you need to pay full retail for - and save money on the stuff you can save money on.
post #35817 of 86759
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

Weather is cooling so I got the cordovan wingtip boots out of storage.
Ravello, black, cigar Aldens and a pair of C&J for Polo Lindricks.
coolboots.jpg

we've enjoyed some spectacular fall weather in the pnw, but i'm almost ready for our typical dreariness to set in so i can regularly wear my boots.
almost.
post #35818 of 86759
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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

well, again, if your goal is to build a wardrobe that means acquiring different colors types and shoe styles. the burgundy shell LWB and PTB are 100% staples - but they are also easy to find at equivalent quality and much lower price than from Alden. but cigar is also a pretty important part of that wardrobe, and even ravello will functionality look a lot better with some outfits than #8 will. so they are not just Ferrari style exotics, they are also functionally very useful. and, they are very hard or impossible to find at any kind of discount.
so I'm just saying if you have say $1,500 dollars allocated to shoe purchases over the next 2 years and want to start building a small and useful collection, I think it's a better choice to pay full retail for the stuff you absolutely you need to pay full retail for - and save money on the stuff you can save money on.

I'm more willing to pay for staples. My LWB (color 8) and LHSs (black and color 8) get quite a lot of wear. For the light color that I wear less often, I'll take a cheaper pair of walnut AE Strands.

Neither is necessarily right or wrong. Just different views/approaches.
post #35819 of 86759
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I recently picked up my first Aldens, ravello PTBs, and am contemplating my next acquisition(s). My work environment is very casual, so they'd mostly be worn with denim and chinos, perhaps sometimes with a jacket, but not a suit. I'm thinking (current collection sans PTBs here):
  1. cigar LHS
  2. #8 LWB
  3. #8 NST boot: barrie last, commando sole
EDIT: I'm interested in hearing feedback on the above 3 and any suggestions that are not among the above 3.

They're all great selections. Have you considered a #8 Chukka? This was the second pair of Aldens I bought and I really like mine. The style/color is really versatile. For the LWB, I got mine in cigar from AoC.
post #35820 of 86759
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Originally Posted by wigglr View Post

I'm grabbing a pair of shoes 10.5D on Grant last. Do you think I should use AE M or L shoe trees?
those ae shoe trees are mighty small compared to the rochester (alden) ones. i use ae large in all of my ae's and rochester medium in my aldens, and i am a 9.5 barrie/9 eee in most ae lasts. for these reasons, i would suggest ae L.
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