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Yeah, but with TSM's rather liberal return policy, you're risking like ten bucks or something. well worth it, in my mind. I purchased one pair of seconds from them and I had to look several minutes to find it. There was one very slight wrinkle on the vamp that I would not have questioned in a first quality shoe.
I kind of feel like the 2nds list is like Volkswagen/Audi cars - everyone I know that drives one has had no major issues, but there tend to be a lot of people who say that Volkswagen/Audi cars are all lemons, will instantly catch on fire, and will kill your family.














