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post #33631 of 98834
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

The PTB style can be worn from dressy to casual, whereas the Indy, IMO, is strictly casual.

I agree that a cigar PTB is more versatile than a whiskey Indy boot, but what are your thoughts on an NST boot vs. Indy boot (same color, sole, etc.)? They look pretty similar side by side, but I think an NST boot can be appropriate up to a sport coat (not a suit, unless it was clearly a country suit), no?
post #33632 of 98834
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I agree that a cigar PTB is more versatile than a whiskey Indy boot, but what are your thoughts on an NST boot vs. Indy boot (same color, sole, etc.)? They look pretty similar side by side, but I think an NST boot can be appropriate up to a sport coat (not a suit, unless it was clearly a country suit), no?

I think an NST is going to be better suited to a sport coat, even if it is on the Barrie. On the Aberdeen, absolutely better suited in my opinion.
post #33633 of 98834
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Originally Posted by ThArtOfWardrobe View Post

Thoughts on the color variation on this pair of firsts? Enough to warrant an email to the retailer or am I just being nit picky?

 

 

It may just be the lighting in the pictures, but those are damn good looking cigar LWB.  I can see the variation but I say they're still awesome.  My cigar LWB seem significantly lighter and they're pretty close to the same shade as my new ravello LWB.  I think I'd be happy with yours, but that's just my opinion.  Bootspell is right, you need to be happy with them.  Good luck...

post #33634 of 98834
Frank, would Amex be excluded from the currency conversion rate? How can I tell? I 'm glad I read this before doing Paypal.
post #33635 of 98834
Black Shell LHS



post #33636 of 98834
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Originally Posted by stanford88 View Post

is the 3rd picture most representative? cigar lwb? they look great. I would keep them

 

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Originally Posted by herrmj View Post

I would pull the trigger on these, that is close enough.

 

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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post


Keep.

 

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Originally Posted by dsmivtr View Post


Since they look like they are already worn, I would think the option is to have Alden re-dye the shoes. At first glance I really did not notice variations so for me, this is might not be an issue.
If you do contact the retailer, what are you expecting as reparation?

 

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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

They look fine in the 1st and 3rd pics.  You can definitely see the variation in pic#2.  If in real life the variation is really as in #2, then for me personally, it would constantly be on my mind.  But that's very personal.  If it doesn't bother you, keep them.  Because they are an awesome pair of shoes!

 

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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


IMO, this is totally personal and simply comes down to what you can tolerate (and if a replacement pair is available). In the last few years I have returned a whiskey model (no replacement available) and color 8 model (replacement available) because the difference was more than I could (or would) tolerate. FWIW, the pairs I returned were unworn.


Thanks for your help on these. I think once they get knocked around and start to patina I won't mind as much so I'm going to keep them. Plus I got them from Frans Boone, so after hearing from you guys that this isn't a huge variation in color it's not worth the cost to send back (I tried them on but have not yet worn them outside).

 

Great customer service from Frans Boone...wish I had known about the credit card fee and asking them to lower the value because I got hit with both. Lesson learned.

post #33637 of 98834
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Originally Posted by IRONHORSE View Post

Frank, would Amex be excluded from the currency conversion rate? How can I tell? I 'm glad I read this before doing Paypal.

I did use Amex. Don't know if all their various cards are fee free, but one I have is.

Discover doesn't charge a fee as far as I know (if FB takes that). Some Visa/MC issues don't either. Probably best to Google or give the issuer a call.

A few percentage points more on a purchase of this amount is certainly unpleasant when it's also avoidable.
post #33638 of 98834
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Originally Posted by Papa Doble View Post

I agree that a cigar PTB is more versatile than a whiskey Indy boot, but what are your thoughts on an NST boot vs. Indy boot (same color, sole, etc.)? They look pretty similar side by side, but I think an NST boot can be appropriate up to a sport coat (not a suit, unless it was clearly a country suit), no?

I'm not a stickler for rules, but Indy boots in general are among Alden's most casual boots, so by definition an NST boot is dressier. NST boots could go with sportcoats and what not. Interesting I think the hand stitching on NST boots and shoes make them more casual, because they tend to give the boot a clunkier look.

On the earlier question on cigar PTB vs whiskey indy, the cigar PTB is much more versatile. However, I believe you are looking at the cigar PTB from Frans Boone - the crepe sole and gold eyelets on that shoe make it a lot more casual than a standard cigar PTB.
Edited by Alcibiades - 8/23/12 at 12:43pm
post #33639 of 98834
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

I'm not a stickler for rules, but Indy boots in general are among Alden's most casual boots, so by definition an NST boot is dressier. NST boots could go with sportcoats and what not.

I agree with this, I just think it's interesting since the boots are pretty similar given the same color, sole, and last.
post #33640 of 98834
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

I did use Amex. Don't know if all their various cards are fee free, but one I have is.
Discover doesn't charge a fee as far as I know (if FB takes that). Some Visa/MC issues don't either. Probably best to Google or give the issuer a call.
A few percentage points more on a purchase of this amount is certainly unpleasant when it's also avoidable.

Frank, not sure if you have platinum or something else at the high end that may not have foreign transaction fees. What Amex typically does (and holds true for Gold cards, Blue, etc) and it is very suspect is that they subsume the fees into your exchange rate, so Amex's exchange rate is poor compared to some other cards that explicitly state that there are no foreign transaction fees, like Capital One Venture, Chase Sapphire Preferred, etc.

Amex and the other credit card companies were subject to a big antitrust case about this very issue, as they were screwing consumers. But I guess we should expect it.
post #33641 of 98834
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

I'm not a stickler for rules, but Indy boots in general are among Alden's most casual boots, so by definition an NST boot is dressier. NST boots could go with sportcoats and what not. Interesting I think the hand stitching on NST boots and shoes make them more casual, because they tend to give the boot a clunkier look.
On the earlier question on cigar PTB vs whiskey indy, the cigar PTB is much more versatile. However, I believe you are looking at the cigar PTB from Frans Boone - the crepe sole and gold eyelets on that boot make it a lot more casual than a standard cigar PTB.

Yes - a crepe sole makes a shoe waaaaaaaaaaaaay more casual.
post #33642 of 98834
NST boots are also available on the Aberdeen (TSM) and Plaza (JGilbert).
post #33643 of 98834
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Originally Posted by CHRK33 View Post

I ordered the Ravello Indy's on the Plaza last that Frans Boone has and with the weak euro and vat deduction, they came out to be the same as buying the boots domestically (not that you could find them here).
Great service from Frans Boone and if you ask nicely, they will lower the value and you won't get hit with Customs fees.
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

Shouldn't be any customs on US made goods entering the US.

That is good information to know about getting Frans Boone to lower the value. I've bought from Frans Boone a few times now, they always have some great makeups.

And ZippyH, you are right, there should be no customs on Alden shoes coming back into the U.S. However, Frans Boone ships to the U.S. via UPS and UPS is actually charging the receiver a "brokerage fee" for their service of bringing the item into the states from a foreign shipper based on its value regardless of where the product was originally produced.
post #33644 of 98834
Maiden voyage on these. Really looking forward to these developing a good patina over time.

post #33645 of 98834
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post
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Maiden voyage on these. Really looking forward to these developing a good patina over time.

Beautiful boots, enjoy them.

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