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Joachim,  Wow!  Really beautiful shoes and great photos.  Yenni is very nice, but in my experience takes a little warming up to.  She gets a lot of lookers and naturally once she realizes you are not, she cannot be nicer to deal with.  Wish they carried more large sizes, all special order.

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So... does this sound reasonable? shog[1].gif

haha yeah that sounds exactly reasonable. the only thing he didn't do was say "you're right, my return policy must be changed!" barring that, i can't imagine what else he coulda done for you. in my eyes, AOC's coming out smellin like roses in this debate.
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Originally Posted by terradilavoro View Post

finally arrived after customs procedere Alden x J. Gilbert Saddles No. 4
I must mention Yenni, what a sweet and nice person at J. Gilbert. Patient, always very helpful in any ways - great experience.
Asked for flat waxed laces for my Indys - expect to pay for of course - found them free of charge in the box as a complement free of charge.
Although these saddles are well known i would like to tease you with some pics - while i am sitting on a sunny day in my garden with a faboulos Gin & Tonic made of Tanqueray No. 10 and Fantimans Tonic - what a beautiful day mates
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Joachim

Alden saddle shoes, gin and tonic, sunshine, what a wonderful life
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just kopped these from the 'bay. will be waiting 2-3 weeks, with much anticipation, for shipping from scandinavia! makes me glad it's hot in kansas until october.
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Originally Posted by runningfrog View Post


i wore my navy suede lwbs last weekend and took my brother to alden sf since he was in town to visit. nice store with a decent selection of alden staples. not much shell selection except black and #8. they did have a nice cigar captoe (i think it was on the aberdeen last), but very limited sizes remaining. the sales guys were really helpful and comped my brother a brush with the #8 lwbs he bought.
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these are perfect to wear sockless on warm summer days. i even wear them with shorts on the weekend. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
most engineers in silicon valley dress poorly, like they are still in college. it's pretty rare to see anyone wearing aldens around here.
i'm still waiting it out for my epaulet ravello brixton boots. totally gonna be worth it though.

Wow, those look great.

 

Is Epaulet still taking orders for the revello brixton boots? I emailed them, but have not heard back yet. I believe NYR said they were in Europe. Hoping to be able to grab a pair of those boots. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Look, I've seen basically every Alden retailer bashed on this board. LeatherSoul, Leffot, Alden, JCrew, whatever. These stores can't please everyone. I have had great service from AoC and will probably buy some boots from them in the future. At least AoC is clear about their return policies. Also, they typically dont let bad shoes out of their shop - they label bad share as irregulars. I you dont like them, don't shop there, it just leaves more pairs for other people

 

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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post


In fact, I dug up an old e-mail between Adam and myself.
Me:
Adam,

Thanks for the reply.

I have had some misfortune with Alden shoes in the past, especially with shell cordovan leather completely mismatching from left to right shoe. What guarantee do you offer against such things?

I should note that this has happened with reputable sellers.
Adam's reply:
In that case, we recommend you try to purchase the shoes in a shop where you can look at the shoes yourself before purchase.

If you can't do that, then secondarily, we recommend purchasing the shoes from a retailer that is willing to issue you a refund if you are not satisfied with the shoes. I believe there are several large sellers of Alden shoes that allow returning of the shoes for a refund.

This should protect you against future misfortune.
So... does this sound reasonable? shog[1].gif

 

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Here is a wonderful pair of Aldens that, thankfully, were not purchased from AofC.
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Originally Posted by johnnyrich7 View Post

Just wanted to add my two cents into this whole discussion. Honestly, AoC's return policy isn't my favorite. However, Adam himself inspects the shoes and has very high standards. I was looking to order some cigar longwings from him a couple weeks back. He checked them out and told me the vamps we're noticeably different and said he would sell them as irregulars. I told him I would pass and he let me know a new shipment would be arriving soon, which they did, and they are currently en route to me. What happened to the irregulars? Well, he posted them up for a decent discount and they were gone to a happy home the next day.
Whether you like AoC's policies or not, you are at least fully informed as a buyer. There is no hiding the ball.
Also, the fact that we don't see guys on this forum blasting AoC about a pair of poor quality shoes they received and could not return is probably indicative of the fact that Adam is not putting poor quality goods into unsuspecting buyers hands.
Just my thoughts.
I look forward to sharing pics of the longwings and unlined ptb's I have coming in this week.

I just wanted to second these comments from johnnyrich7....

 

Alden of Carmel's return policy is as clear as a bell.... I think it is a real disservice (sic) to Adam and his operation to condemn what his policy's are.  I have purchased 5 pairs of shoes/boots from him via e-mail and he has always been courteous, upfront, honest and unfailingly polite.  I think that he offers very specific and unique Alden models and he serves his customers well.  I don't think it is appropriate to condemn him for policies that protect him as a small business operation.  

That being said I truly believe that Adam inspects his products closely before he sends them out to customers.  And I believe his seconds and irregulars would be sold as 1st quality at many other retailers.  In fact I purchase a pair of the AF53's as irregulars and I spent a lot of time trying to find out what made them irregular and to this day I cannot find it.

I also believe that if those saddle shoes referenced above had been sold by Adam he would have many every attempt to correct the situation whatever the return policy is... he is, in my opinion a stand up guy!

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Originally Posted by johnnyrich7 View Post

Just wanted to add my two cents into this whole discussion. Honestly, AoC's return policy isn't my favorite. However, Adam himself inspects the shoes and has very high standards. I was looking to order some cigar longwings from him a couple weeks back. He checked them out and told me the vamps we're noticeably different and said he would sell them as irregulars. I told him I would pass and he let me know a new shipment would be arriving soon, which they did, and they are currently en route to me. What happened to the irregulars? Well, he posted them up for a decent discount and they were gone to a happy home the next day.
Whether you like AoC's policies or not, you are at least fully informed as a buyer. There is no hiding the ball.
Also, the fact that we don't see guys on this forum blasting AoC about a pair of poor quality shoes they received and could not return is probably indicative of the fact that Adam is not putting poor quality goods into unsuspecting buyers hands.
Just my thoughts.
I look forward to sharing pics of the longwings and unlined ptb's I have coming in this week.

Sounds like AoC is working QC for Alden. If he really inspects every shoe and boot that comes into his inventory, I'd buy something from him if I know my size in that last. 

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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Read above. I use what Horween uses.

Horween says Saphir Reno is an excellent product. You use Venetian? Saphir is better.
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Dunno if this is okay to post here. I have a pair of these in 8.5D unworn for sale at cost. Please PM if interested.
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Originally Posted by Calikid View Post

I also believe that if those saddle shoes referenced above had been sold by Adam he would have many every attempt to correct the situation whatever the return policy is... he is, in my opinion a stand up guy!
I believe this as well and there is no reason for anyone to think different.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

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They were, for about 10 minutes, until I realized that there is about 10 shades of difference in color. With AofC, I would have been told - oh so ever reasonably - that I could not return them for a refund.

I was going to say, is it just me or is the variance in color ridiculous?
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Spent about an hour cleaning up a few of my shoes.

Nice sunny day in CA:

Black Shell LHS
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Ravello PTB
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My old pair of #8 LHS. Pretty nice patina on these.
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Originally Posted by hkpm View Post

 

I don't think they are seconds.

But it is weird that the left tongue slip to the right side, normally it should slip to the left.

(yeah I know it is weird to say the words above, but it is Alden Indy boots.....)

 

I heard that a cobbler can stitch one side of the tongue to the vamp, so it can stay in place.

 

To be honest, I recommend you not to do close inspection on the Indy boots, it has the worst finishes among my Alden collection. (I don't know the shell version is any better, but at least the CXL of mine is like that)

 

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This is a common "problem" and many members have had the tongue sewn in place. If you search the thread you will find a couple of other solutions but none work as well.

 

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If that were true, then the tongues of all his boots would slip over.
Some boots are just made with the tongue crooked and it slips over. I've got a pair of suede Indy boots where the left tongue slips to the right.
Crockett & Jones boots typically have the left side of the right shoe's tongue stitched down to prevent the slippage. (And of course the right side of the left boot's tongue).

Could someone give me some more specifics as to how I can get this fixed by having the tongue stitched down to the vamp?  I couldn't find anything in this thread on this subject (maybe I'm not too adept at searching on SF yet).  It would seem that if I have a cobbler stitch the tongue to the vamp, wouldn't the stitching show through to the outside causing a not so visually appealing  result?  I'm sure if people are doing this, there must be a way to do it without it looking bad.

 

I thought about having a cobbler attach (not sure what you call it) one of those strips on the tongue that the laces pass through to hold the tongue in place but because these have 5 eyelets and 4 speed hooks, that "thing" would have to be sewn too low on the tongue to do much good (I wouldn't want to have to lace through this "thing" up at the level of the speed hooks each time I put on the boots.

 

Thanks for any suggestions or info.

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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post


Could someone give me some more specifics as to how I can get this fixed by having the tongue stitched down to the vamp?  I couldn't find anything in this thread on this subject (maybe I'm not too adept at searching on SF yet).  It would seem that if I have a cobbler stitch the tongue to the vamp, wouldn't the stitching show through to the outside causing a not so visually appealing  result?  I'm sure if people are doing this, there must be a way to do it without it looking bad.

I thought about having a cobbler attach (not sure what you call it) one of those strips on the tongue that the laces pass through to hold the tongue in place but because these have 5 eyelets and 4 speed hooks, that "thing" would have to be sewn too low on the tongue to do much good (I wouldn't want to have to lace through this "thing" up at the level of the speed hooks each time I put on the boots.

Thanks for any suggestions or info.
I have never had it doen but if you can find a good cobbler he should be able to give you the options.
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Moar pics…less rancor. I don't care where you buy your Alden's from just buy 'em & post pics. Have a great weekend & everyone lighten up a bit.

nephew,
o/s collection, enjoy wearing
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