Originally Posted by Alcibiades
If I understand your post, you want MTO Alden shoes in cordovan colors with details fit to your specs and in a specific uncommon size... I think the issue is that cordovan is in short supply, so it isn't economical,for Alden to take dozens or hundreds of individual MTO orders in something like ravello. I talked to Steven at Leffot, he is having trouble getting ravello orders confirmed. Remember, it is one pair of shoes per horse. If you need wide sizes, the Alden DC, NYC and SF stores seem to stock some Es and EEs in some cordovan styles. The Shoe Mart does occasionally as well. If you need a unique makeup, try one of the Alden MTO threads here on SF for a group order.
No, you misunderstand and misrepresent what I said. I want stock standard Alden items in my size, to replace precisely what I already own. What I own is worn out and ready for replacement.
That the Alden cordovan range is chronically limited to products which are never available, even from retailers who cannot place orders for future delivery, is at the fulcrum of the complaint. That other suppliers can both supply a cordovan range AND offer MTO variations reduces Alden's possible list of explanations.
The argument that these leathers are in short supply is well known, but the argument is partially flawed because the other manufacturers do not experience the same problems as acutely as Alden allegedly does.
AE for example, a producer of greater quantity, manages to deliver fairly quickly, although they do not do Ravello, but, EG, G&G, Vass et al, all foreign producers, they experience far less of these problems, either that or they manage the problems a whole lot better.
The other suppliers have waiting lists as well, sure, and exotic colored cordovan leather can be a slightly longer wait, but these issues are no less onerous or burdensome than any other premium range of their products and the cordovan products in any exotic color can be delivered by the other suppliers within fairly reasonable lead times.
I have, for example, an order for a whiskey Sandringham and a Cognac Brummel from EG. Another retailer confirmed an order for a pair of boots in an exotic colored cordovan from G&G. Both orders will be delivered in very reasonable lead times.
Originally Posted by blue collar
The fact that Tom will personally reply (to a forum rant) like this is more than I can say for any other Alden retailer out there.
+1 absolutely, Tom is way out there, except that this is no rant, unless you view it from the perspective of a supplier and not a consumer.
Originally Posted by LeatherSOUL
We can order any of the stock offerings for you at any time. For our makeups there is just so much planning and back of house work involved to accommodate everyone's requests individually. Plus most people aren't willing to wait. That is why I basically stopped doing our preorders.
If you don't mind waiting 18+ months with a non-refundable/transferable deposit, let me know the styles you are looking for (non-cigar/ravello/whiskey/#4) and I will try my best to accommodate you personally. Email me directly if you are interested.
You got it Tom,
not only will I pay a deposit, I will pay full retail if the order is accepted. Previous inquiries have been met with an absolute decline, which is not a problem in itself, it just makes the marketing of these unobtainable items by the producer so strange.
I will PM you to discuss. I am after stock standard products, only in one of the exotic cordovans. Waiting is not the problem, availability and opportunity to be advised when stocks do become available is the issue. Perhaps I will simply get you to order from one of your other suppliers anyway, that way I could dispense with all this waiting for retirement age before delivery stuff.
Customers who are unwilling to wait will walk into an Alden retailer and buy one of these products straight off the shelf if they are lucky enough to make their purchase at the right time. But are they real Alden shoe enthusiasts? Like those clients who do spend the time and the effort to source these products but keep coming up empty handed.