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I know others posted the same shoe since we all received them about the same time but here are mine
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Looking great Porter! The antique edge trim really makes for a nice makeup.

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Ravello Medallion Cap Toes on the Plaza…first voyage using the break in procedure.
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Ravello Medallion Cap Toes on the Plaza…first voyage using the break in procedure.
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Love the ram's head medallion on the Plaza

post #16534 of 91453
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Originally Posted by Ahab View Post

If you think it is a premium then find me other manufacturers of Whiskey shell shoes so that we can make an intelligent informed opinion. Thank you.

Close enough?
http://www.rancourtandcompany.com/men-s/penny-loafers/beefroll-penny-loafers-saddle-shell-cordovan.html
post #16535 of 91453
Not really. It is a penny loafer which can hide a lot of flaws with the shell, I am not sure of the quality, they are made to order so they do not have the overhead of holding inventory and the most important thing is that they are only offering one shoe in whiskey shell. Kind of a let down, but I guess it is a nice try.
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Originally Posted by Ahab View Post

Not really. It is a penny loafer which can hide a lot of flaws with the shell, I am not sure of the quality, they are made to order so they do not have the overhead of holding inventory and the most important thing is that they are only offering one shoe in whiskey shell. Kind of a let down, but I guess it is a nice try.

They would make any shoe on that website in any color shell you see listed, and probably others as well. The fact that they're MTO is a plus. Any sole, leather, eyelet combination you want is available.
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Originally Posted by CTYGGG View Post

Ravello Medallion Cap Toes on the Plaza…first voyage using the break in procedure.

Recommendations for break in procedure are found where?

Also I need a recommendation for polishing Whiskey shell cordovan.

Taken from Alden of Carmel: http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/index.cfm/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm
Here are the "don'ts" of shell cordovan care:
1. Do not use 'neutral' polish

Alden NYC sent me neutral.

Mixed signals to say the least.
Edited by Leighlon - 10/3/11 at 11:21am
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I really liked those Ravello Day Tripper boots that Leffot had that a few of the users had posted up a few pages back. Thankfully they are already sold out!
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Originally Posted by Ahab View Post

I am not sure of the quality, they are made to order so they do not have the overhead of holding inventory and the most important thing is that they are only offering one shoe in whiskey shell. Kind of a let down, but I guess it is a nice try.

I will let you know the quality, going to try on a pair of Rancourt for Brooks Brothers Beefroll (Calf) Penny Loafers tonight. I had my eye on that Whiskey pair if these calf penny loafers work out.
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Originally Posted by CTYGGG View Post

Looking great Porter! The antique edge trim really makes for a nice makeup.

+1 - wish that last fit me.
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Originally Posted by Ahab View Post

I am not sure of the quality, they are made to order so they do not have the overhead of holding inventory and the most important thing is that they are only offering one shoe in whiskey shell. Kind of a let down, but I guess it is a nice try.

I will let you know the quality, going to try on a pair of Rancourt for Brooks Brothers Beefroll (Calf) Penny Loafers tonight. I had my eye on that Whiskey pair if these calf penny loafers work out.

I've got a pair of Rancourt beefroll loafers made for Ralph Lauren. They're okay.
They're nice enough but feel somewhat insubstantial next to an Alden. I would say the calf ones are well worth the $255 Rancourt is selling them for (or the $225 I paid to Ralph for mine).
I wouldn't pay $500 for the shell ones although they do have green and navy shell available which made me at least think about it.

Rancourt also make the double buckle Ralph loafer and I suspect the single buckle one too.

Sizing is a bit funky on them too. I sized down 1/2 since I was going to wear them sockless. Now that they're worn in, they even fit a bit loose with a medium sock. However if I went to a smaller size, I'm pretty sure they'd be too short and/or pinchy in the toes.
post #16542 of 91453
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I've got a pair of Rancourt beefroll loafers made for Ralph Lauren. They're okay.
They're nice enough but feel somewhat insubstantial next to an Alden. I would say the calf ones are well worth the $255 Rancourt is selling them for (or the $225 I paid to Ralph for mine).
I wouldn't pay $500 for the shell ones although they do have green and navy shell available which made me at least think about it.
Rancourt also make the double buckle Ralph loafer and I suspect the single buckle one too.
Sizing is a bit funky on them too. I sized down 1/2 since I was going to wear them sockless. Now that they're worn in, they even fit a bit loose with a medium sock. However if I went to a smaller size, I'm pretty sure they'd be too short and/or pinchy in the toes.

I believe Rancourt makes the shell venetian loafers that Leffot sells under their own name. Keep in mind these are true mocs, not a goodyear welted shoe with a fake moc toe like the LHS. They should be a good deal softer and lighter than the Alden offering.
post #16543 of 91453
I was recently in NOMAD (in Toronto) to see what they had in the way of Alden shoes and they have a few of these on sale. I believe they are 30% off right now. Not sure of how many are left though.
Might be worth a shot for some of us in the Toronto area looking for a suede shoe.

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post #16544 of 91453
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Originally Posted by Leighlon View Post

Recommendations for break in procedure are found where?
Also I need a recommendation for polishing Whiskey shell cordovan.
Taken from Alden of Carmel: http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/index.cfm/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm
Here are the "don'ts" of shell cordovan care:
1. Do not use 'neutral' polish
Alden NYC sent me neutral.
Mixed signals to say the least.


To take care of shell do what I do which is now based on the Mac Method as interpreted by Srivats:
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Wipe clothes with (barely) damp cloth to remove dirt. Let dry for 2-3 mins.
Insert shoetrees. Take a horsehair brush and brush vigorously till your arms give out. OK, for 5-6 min (each shoe).

Buff with flannel cloth.

Use paste wax (minute, minute amounts) every 15 wearings or so, or if they get scuffed hard. Yearly application of cordovan crème (not regular crème) if need be.

Rinse and repeat.

And before you ask: Yes, that is all is there to it. And yes, it works.
Source: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?102927-Mac-method-for-shell&p=1067020#post1067020


I found this which I never had read about before:
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1. You can "uncrease" shell with the pencil trick. Put in your shoe tree, get a pencil (or maybe a round dowel), and with a good amount of force, press and go over the creases. Should be able to get out shell creases in about 8-10 presses and strokes.

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http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?102805-Cordovan-is-just-not-for-me...&p=1065469#post1065469


Also this is a description of the pencil method from Tom as explained by Srivats:
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The "pencil method" as described by Tom is for setting the crease straight when the shell shoes are new. Basically you put the pencil (or pen) where you want the shoes to crease and flex your feet. This way you get symmetric creases on both feet. Obviously, this works better if someone else holds the pen it for you when you are standing up - but you can try it yourself too.
post #16545 of 91453
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

They would make any shoe on that website in any color shell you see listed, and probably others as well. The fact that they're MTO is a plus. Any sole, leather, eyelet combination you want is available.
But they are all loafers and Mocs....which I do not think is a fair way to compare Alden quality with shell as, and I am speaking out of my ass here, the pieces do not have to be as large and can cover up the flaws. Also I notice they do not state they get their shell from Horween....they may but if they get it from another party pricing and quality may be different.
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Originally Posted by unclesam099 View Post

I will let you know the quality, going to try on a pair of Rancourt for Brooks Brothers Beefroll (Calf) Penny Loafers tonight. I had my eye on that Whiskey pair if these calf penny loafers work out.
Sounds good. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I've got a pair of Rancourt beefroll loafers made for Ralph Lauren. They're okay.
They're nice enough but feel somewhat insubstantial next to an Alden. I would say the calf ones are well worth the $255 Rancourt is selling them for (or the $225 I paid to Ralph for mine).
I wouldn't pay $500 for the shell ones although they do have green and navy shell available which made me at least think about it.
Rancourt also make the double buckle Ralph loafer and I suspect the single buckle one too.
Sizing is a bit funky on them too. I sized down 1/2 since I was going to wear them sockless. Now that they're worn in, they even fit a bit loose with a medium sock. However if I went to a smaller size, I'm pretty sure they'd be too short and/or pinchy in the toes.
Thanks for the info zippyh!
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

I believe Rancourt makes the shell venetian loafers that Leffot sells under their own name. Keep in mind these are true mocs, not a goodyear welted shoe with a fake moc toe like the LHS. They should be a good deal softer and lighter than the Alden offering.
This is neither good or bad. I was looking for a Beefroll Mocc and would like something a little more structured. I really do not think I would get shell over brown Chromexcel. Thanks for all the input.
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