I was browsing ebay and came across "brown leather" Alden shoes on the "arch street last". I emailed the guy and he said he bought these at an estate sale and knew nothing about them. If these are what I think they are, I got them for a great price. I think they are some new old stock shell cordovan in color 8. The color looks to have aged nicely to a brownish shade with a bit of bloom. I think they'll clean up nicely when they arrive. The things that stood out for me are the mismatched insoles and the old-school shoebox. Fingers are crossed on this gamble. Hopefully they fit just like a modern 974.