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Thanks guys. I guess no suede with a suit.

I like these in suede...

http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-mens_medallion_tip_bal_calfskin_snuff_suede/pvc-ald-mxsd-51670_ald_m_medallion_tip_bal_calfskin.html

Would these go with jeans as well as business casual attire? I tend to not go for plain toe shoes and boots.

It isn't because they are suede that they don't work with a suit. It is the style. 

 

The shoes in the link would work with a suit (depending on color). I would wear them business casual, but I do not wear oxfords with jeans. 

post #95822 of 122416
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Well can only speak from wearing AE a lot and I can assure you the only barefoot running I do is in commercial time outs to get to the fridge...I liken the shank  to taping an ankle in sports and training...It is universally agreed that taping an ankle daily weakens the ankle joint over time so wouldn't a shank that is there to stabilize do the same? Having a taped ankle does not feel natural. I think outside of weight if no one told me there was a steel shank in the Alden's I may not know it. Also the heel area is more roomy in my Aldens than other boots I own while the front of the foot is tighter...

 

For me I happen to find AE shoes and boots to be very comfortable as I do Alden's but if I know I am going to be putting in 3+ plus miles of walking I probably am reaching for my AE's and probably due to them being more broken in.

 

 

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...and now for something completely different: Alden is known for its triple-strength steel shanks. Would you say their shoes are more comfortable than others after a day of heavy walking?

 

 

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I have a pair of AE dalton boots, which doesnt have the steel shank. I like Wearing Alden so much more. The shank gives the boots a very soild feeling and I love it.

 

 

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Have not owned Alden boots for that long however have done a several multi mile walks in the CXL indies(cork), NST boot(commando), & J Crew shell Captoe(leather sole) and my other boots are AE(10), Vass(1), Viberg(2)...out of all of them the AE in all soles is most comfortable to me on longer walks. My guess is that the AE are lighter and more importantly comes in tons of widths and goes up to big sizes without having to jump through hoops to get. So I guess fit is really the key factor.

 

I am loving the Alden's I have though and wish it was not a pain in the arss to get them in my size in the special makeups from the retailers. Looking forward to adding more!

 

 

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Comfort is such an interestingly relative phenomenon. I've got a few biomechanical foot issues (hallux valgus, pronation, arch pain, and achilles tendonitis), and when I first made the switch from cemented "comfort shoes" to goodyear welted shoes, I found that my pain from all these ailments intensified.

Over time, however, as my physiology strengthened and adapted, I've come to find single leather soles (once broken in) to be far more comfortable than anything else, even squishy commandos, lugs, or gumlite.

I guess my foot ligaments, tendons, and muscles were rather atrophied from years of being coddled by shoes that cradled and babies them.

 

 

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Interesting...didn't realize they had chopped back some width sizes...in the 12 and 13 sizes the only size that seems to be depleted is the ee.

 

The regular make ups from Alden are nice but once you see these special makeups flying around it is tough to see stock ones in the same light. The frustration level of special orders only going to 11 in some cases(damn you Leather Sole) or 12 which the Barrie works barely for me though but takes effort to get them stretched. I have not been able to nail down the pre-order/list process to be able to special order a size for Alden's yet.

 

 

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Originally Posted by VRaivio View Post


This is strange. Allen-Edmonds does not use shanks at all, even though they are an industry-standard on GW shoes with prices like Loake's. Shankless pairs shouldn't be more comfortable because they won't absorb or dampen the stress of walking and stomping with the 60kg+ weight of an adult male. If you're used to barefoot running or moccasins, shankless walking will likely feel more natural.


Good discussion!  I think a shank...regardless of what its made from is important for arch support.  No doubt fit is the most important, specially if walking long distances.  Adding in uneven surfaces such as you might encounter on an actual "hike" makes the shank more important in my opinion.  As we age our arch spreads/collapses/flattens.  No doubt if you are used to wearing a shoe/boot without a shank; then start wearing one with a shank your foot will likely notice it.  Besides being hooked on shoes, I hooked on cowboy boots which should not be surprising since I'm a native Texan.  A great example is comparing a traditional cowboy boot with a shank vs. a roper without a shank.  Overall a good fitting traditional cowboy boot to me is more comfortable than ropers...because the traditional boot provides more support to my foot vs. the roper lets it spread out and puts more pressure on the arch.  My son is an Eagle Scout and I've done hikes in excess of 50 miles.  I've owned expensive hiking boots and cheaper ones.  Same story the boots with better arch support are more comfortable and stable too.

 

These are just my opinions and experiences.  My point being I don't think there's a right or wrong answer as long as whatever you are wearing is comfortable.  Once you have your size dialed in...I wear a 13D Alden on Barrie but everything AE I wear a 14D.

 

See Ya,

Steve

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Good discussion!  I think a shank...regardless of what its made from is important for arch support.  No doubt fit is the most important, specially if walking long distances.  Adding in uneven surfaces such as you might encounter on an actual "hike" makes the shank more important in my opinion.  As we age our arch spreads/collapses/flattens.  No doubt if you are used to wearing a shoe/boot without a shank; then start wearing one with a shank your foot will likely notice it.  Besides being hooked on shoes, I hooked on cowboy boots which should not be surprising since I'm a native Texan.  A great example is comparing a traditional cowboy boot with a shank vs. a roper without a shank.  Overall a good fitting traditional cowboy boot to me is more comfortable than ropers...because the traditional boot provides more support to my foot vs. the roper lets it spread out and puts more pressure on the arch.  My son is an Eagle Scout and I've done hikes in excess of 50 miles.  I've owned expensive hiking boots and cheaper ones.  Same story the boots with better arch support are more comfortable and stable too.

These are just my opinions and experiences.  My point being I don't think there's a right or wrong answer as long as whatever you are wearing is comfortable.  Once you have your size dialed in...I wear a 13D Alden on Barrie but everything AE I wear a 14D.

See Ya,
Steve

I don't know how much the steel shank contributes to the comfort level, but what I know is that I prefer Aldens over any other shoe for comfort. The Barrie Last with double leather sole is most comfortable to me. If I know I have to walk multiple miles, I reach for a shoe in the Barrie Last.

The comfort factor is likely the biggest reason why I have a large Alden collection.
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Now that you guys are talking about comfort , do you find a double waterlock sole more comfortable than a double leather? , I was under the impression that the double waterlock was more comfortable, but after wearing both I think they are easier to break in and a tad softer when new but once they're both broken in I think they're about the same , not sure but I think that the dbl waterlock is a bit heavier also.
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I don't know how much the steel shank contributes to the comfort level, but what I know is that I prefer Aldens over any other shoe for comfort. The Barrie Last with double leather sole is most comfortable to me. If I know I have to walk multiple miles, I reach for a shoe in the Barrie Last.

The comfort factor is likely the biggest reason why I have a large Alden collection.

I also find my Aldens to be more comfortable than my AE's, for the most part, but in my case I think it's just a matter of which lasts suit my feet better. My Alden Indys and longwings, on Trubalance and Barrie, respectively, are probably the most comfortable shoes I own. My lhs's, on Van, less so - though my foot doesn't move around in them. My AE's on the other hand are either tight in one spot or another (for example, with the Dalton's, it's in the right outside toe area) or allow heel slippage (I have this issue with some suede Neumoks). However, my Neumoras are actually incredibly comfortable.

Overall, though, the fact that my affections have shifted to Alden and away from AE is largely a matter of aesthetics. I don't need to explain it to you guys, but I just really like the way the Aldens look and that matters to me a lot. However, if my wife or my accountant ask, it's mostly a matter of comfort. And performance - for my extreme office lifestyle.

I will say that after a long day a few months back in which I had to go into and out of a federal courthouse many times, requiring many trips through a metal detector, I have learned not to wear my Aldens to court. That steel shank is not good in that setting.
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2 Hunting Green make ups arrived J Gilbert, contact them if you are interested. I ordered a Green LWB.

These are outstanding!

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Thanks Uncle Mac !
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I really like these a great deal... after a number of wears, how well do the keep their shape; do they crease significantly?  Thank you for sharing and for your feedback!

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Went to the podiatrist today and seems I am going to need custom orthotics... Does anybody wear orthoics in their Aldens or other high end dress shoes?

 

I am assuming for the time being that they will not fit in my shoes as is and I may have to sell my shoes for larger sizes to accommodate the insole. Kind of worried about my 20 pair for current shoes, that will be quite the cost overhaul and change sizes across most of them  :(

post #95832 of 122416
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Originally Posted by walds11 View Post

Hey guys, now that I picked up my first Alden's...Indy Snuff Suede boots, I am on a suede kick! I really like these...

http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-mens_handsewn_5_eyelet_blucher_oxford_calfskin_brown_suede/pvc-ald-mxsdlm-73993_ald_m_handsewn_5_eyelet_blucher_oxford_calfskin.html

You think I can wear these with business casual attire, i.e. khakis or chinos with polo or button down shirt? What about with a suit? Any other ideas for suede shoes or even boots?

Not with a suit.
post #95833 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Burzan View Post
 

Went to the podiatrist today and seems I am going to need custom orthotics... Does anybody wear orthoics in their Aldens or other high end dress shoes?

 

I am assuming for the time being that they will not fit in my shoes as is and I may have to sell my shoes for larger sizes to accommodate the insole. Kind of worried about my 20 pair for current shoes, that will be quite the cost overhaul and change sizes across most of them  :(

 

It can depend on the orthotic and where the support is...if the orthotic is filling a void in your foot area then you may be fine...Sorry to hear about it..is it foot pain you are having or something up river more caused by the foot?

 

Personally I think it is the steel shank causing your problems .......clearly joking :)

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Pardon my ignorance, but Alden makes a Ravello shade in calf leather as well?

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Unfortunately they do not. Ravello is a shade exclusive to Alden and to Shell Cordovan. They do have a calf color that is somewhat close to it though, but it's name is evading me at the moment.

Actually, I was thinking of their Walnut Calf... See the picture here from TheShoeMart of the Walnut Calf Tassel...

http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-mens_tassel_moccasin_aberdeen_last_walnut/pvc-ald-mxsdst-560_ald_m_tassel_moccasin_aberdeen_last.html

-Mike

Correct, sir.

Alden's walnut calf is its closest calf color to ravello shell. I have numerous ravello shell models and a few walnut calf models.
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It can depend on the orthotic and where the support is...if the orthotic is filling a void in your foot area then you may be fine...Sorry to hear about it..is it foot pain you are having or something up river more caused by the foot?

 

Personally I think it is the steel shank causing your problems .......clearly joking :)

 

Sounds like I have a high arches that needs proper support, it is collapsing a bit and causing the onset of a bunion on one foot. I am not in pain but noticed that I could feel some discomfort from the bunion area rubbing. From what I understand is that mine is very minor and the use of the orthotics at this point could stop anything from progressing or possibly even correct the issue.

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