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post #88471 of 122416
Fair to say my barrie size and trubalance size would be the same? Close to pulling the trigger on a pair of 403s. Only hesitation is I think they would be worn in the same situations as my Wings and HornxDayton service boots, which I have really grown to love and hate the idea of replacing.
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That is not an Alden boot? Amazing that J. Crew would rip off a product made by one of its suppliers.

yea i also thought it was alden at first look. Im curious if Alden is going to do anything about it. With Jcrew having the long wing and the boot, and also carrying alden. 


I really don't think J Crew's make-ups will poach any future Alden-buyers.  It may actually create future Alden aficionados... these cheap knock-offs might create some interest in the real thing.  I discovered Alden through J Crew's first Alden shoe, the tobacco waxed Longwing.  I realize that's a little different, but still...

post #88473 of 122416
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^ And what chukka is Alden's a copy of?

I'm not aware of a chukka just like Alden's that pre-dates theirs, but I don't think Alden invented the chukka by any means.
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^ And what chukka is Alden's a copy of?
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post #88475 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Dillardiv View Post

Fair to say my barrie size and trubalance size would be the same? Close to pulling the trigger on a pair of 403s. Only hesitation is I think they would be worn in the same situations as my Wings and HornxDayton service boots, which I have really grown to love and hate the idea of replacing.


Yes it is the same size for most.

My personal thought is Barrie is the slightest bit trimmer in the toebox so I can wear 8 or 8.5 in Barrie, were as Trubalance its 8 definitively.

post #88476 of 122416
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I think this is one of those things were, as much of a shame as it is, JCrew doesn't care. JCrew is somewhere around a 3 billion dollar company(last I checked), that is praised on the business market for their creativity and innovation in their respective market. 

 

Additionally, I have heard from many retailers that they cannot attempt to sell shoes/boots they cannot get. 2+ years wait on certain styles cannot fit the model of a fast growing ever changing company like JCrew. I'm not saying I agree with this, but in a business world you have to understand why they would attempt to hijack a style. Every industry in every spectrum of the world does this very same thing. Where can you go now adays that is a chain style store that doesnt sell some sort of hijacked product?

How in fact does one hijack (or steal) a work boot, a PTB, and a LWB?  In the case of J Crew, the models are the same, but you are talking about two very different animals at significantly different price points.

 

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I highly doubt that any company owns a shoe style. LWB, PTB, Monks are just styles. Sure the Indy has the stiched apron, but so do a lot of shoes.

You definitely can't say that JC's Ludlow LWB and PTB are copies of Alden. It's just a style.

My point exactly...

post #88477 of 122416
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I'm not aware of a chukka just like Alden's that pre-dates theirs, but I don't think Alden invented the chukka by any means.

This is the standard design Mojave, which is unlined and never officially offered in shell. Not too similar, IMO.

post #88478 of 122416
Maybe copying the "iconic" Indy, arguably Alden's most recognized model, pushes things a little too far for some of us? Just speculating. I saw the other Ludlows when they came out and I knew they were trying to provide their customers with more affordable GYW shoes in Alden's style (which is not a bad move as others pointed out - though I personally wouldn't touch them bc I'm a snob), which did not bother me. LWBs, SWBs, PTBs, etc, are classic styles that most makers carry. But the new work style boot- esp. the very obvious way in which it tries to exactly copy the Indy... it strikes me as an uncreative, disrespectful, shameless ripoff. It crosses a line for me. That said, I'll get over it and still buy those things I like from JCrew (oh the hypocrisy).
post #88479 of 122416
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

I highly doubt that any company owns a shoe style. LWB, PTB, Monks are just styles. Sure the Indy has the stiched apron, but so do a lot of shoes.

You definitely can't say that JC's Ludlow LWB and PTB are copies of Alden. It's just a style.

Although the last shape is very very similar.
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This is the standard design Mojave, which is unlined and never officially offered in shell. Not too similar, IMO.


Agreed. In my post I said "they don't offer it in shell, but someone listed a shell MTO Mojave on eBay." I included this in my post to show it alongside the 1339. You could also compare the Mojave to Alden's suede chukka. The stitching in particular is remarkably similar.

I don't really care if AE intentionally copied an Alden design. Alden may very well have done the same thing in the past. It's just an interesting observation.
post #88481 of 122416
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Agreed. In my post I said "they don't offer it in shell, but someone listed a shell MTO Mojave on eBay." I included this in my post to show it alongside the 1339. You could also compare the Mojave to Alden's suede chukka. The stitching in particular is remarkably similar.

I don't really care if AE intentionally copied an Alden design. Alden may very well have done the same thing in the past. It's just an interesting observation.

If anything it's more of a desert boot inspired design (as is Alden's unlined suede) rather than a dress chukka.

The conversation is rather silly. These are classic heritage designs.
post #88482 of 122416
Found these rambling around my closet last night.... Alden AAAC spectators from a Leathersoul make-up a few years ago.....

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Monks
post #88484 of 122416
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How in fact does one hijack (or steal) a work boot, a PTB, and a LWB?  In the case of J Crew, the models are the same, but you are talking about two very different animals at significantly different price points.

My point exactly...

This is something no one here can answer at this time. We can assume but unless someone were to buy them and review them, it's just an assumption.
post #88485 of 122416
^ If the workboots are like the LWBs, the materials are significantly inferior to Alden's. I'd be curious to compare the boots though.
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