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post #81736 of 122416
^ Good points but it's not - and I'm not alone in saying this - like they were very good in honoring the list. From my perspective the deposit might be nice in incentivizing them to honor the list. Works both ways.
post #81737 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

I can understand when people individually pass on a shoe for which they added themselves to a list, but I am surprised by the perceived aggregate amount of people that are passing on the DC Cigar Captoes.  If I was them, and it is really as rampant as it seems, I would just stop doing the lists all together.


Seems like too much trouble keeping track of everything when so many people end up passing.


Either that, or I'd start taking a non-refunable deposit.  Or not let people that have passed previously get on future lists.


Maybe they don't mind, but I'd be annoyed if someone asked me to make a promise that I didn't have to make, and then they later declined the very thing that they asked me to promise them.


Again, I understand it at the individual level.  Might be bad timing financially, or so much time passed since you added your name and things have changed, ect.  But when I commit to something, I always follow through, barring extreme circumstances.

 


I agree with this for the most part. However, Kathy makes it clear that there is no obligation whatsoever to purchase the shoes once you place your name on the list. If maintaining a voluntary list is difficult or annoying for them, then they should change their policy. When I've placed my name on lists in the past, Kathy always reminds me that there is no pressure to purchase the shoes/boots when they arrive.
post #81738 of 122416
I think Leffot's is one of the better methods. You pay your 20% and you know the run is being made.
These lists are just for shoes that may get made someday. Of course there will be a ton of names on there. People keep buying in the mean time and once the two years passes and the boots get made a lot less people are interested.
post #81739 of 122416

 

 


So you are saying I should sell my #4 ? :hide: 

post #81740 of 122416

Why do jumpers have to be so cool?  And IMHO, Cigar is the best color for them.  I'm glad to see them going for over $1k.  I hung in there until ~$650 before tapping out.  In the event I can ever get a new pair, I'd rather go that route.  Who knows what will happen down the road with shell allocation?  From what I gather, the demand from OE automakers aren't making it easy for Alden to get shell in the colors that we'd all like to see.

 

With that being said... Does anyone else not really feel that strongly about Color 4?  I get that they're super rare at this point, but the whole "oxblood" boot color would probably never get worn by me.  I guess they're going to a collector to just have them on their kill list for that price?

 

Cigar > Color 8 > Ravello > Color 4 > Whiskey, in my book.

post #81741 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post
 

I can understand when people individually pass on a shoe for which they added themselves to a list, but I am surprised by the perceived aggregate amount of people that are passing on the DC Cigar Captoes.  If I was them, and it is really as rampant as it seems, I would just stop doing the lists all together.

 

Seems like too much trouble keeping track of everything when so many people end up passing.

 

Either that, or I'd start taking a non-refunable deposit.  Or not let people that have passed previously get on future lists.

 

Maybe they don't mind, but I'd be annoyed if someone asked me to make a promise that I didn't have to make, and then they later declined the very thing that they asked me to promise them.

 

Again, I understand it at the individual level.  Might be bad timing financially, or so much time passed since you added your name and things have changed, ect.  But when I commit to something, I always follow through, barring extreme circumstances.

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It's almost like, "Okay Kathy, put me on every list for every makeup that you order.  Every time you receive a shipment, you must call me and offer me an opportunity to buy my size.  Then once I have decline, you may offer it to someone else"

 

...Okay, not really.  But we seem to be headed in that direction.

 

 

Shut up Bakes11771.  Your point, as always, is invalid and you are a bitter individual that detracts from the decorum of this thread.  I hope that one day you overcome whatever internal conflict that you are suffering from and learn how to be a more pleasant person.

 

 

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(Not used to people here agreeing with me, so I had to disagree with myself)
post #81742 of 122416
I hope Alden starts ordering from Comipel like Trickers.
post #81743 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post
 

I can understand when people individually pass on a shoe for which they added themselves to a list, but I am surprised by the perceived aggregate amount of people that are passing on the DC Cigar Captoes.  If I was them, and it is really as rampant as it seems, I would just stop doing the lists all together.

 

Seems like too much trouble keeping track of everything when so many people end up passing.

 

Either that, or I'd start taking a non-refunable deposit.  Or not let people that have passed previously get on future lists.

 

Maybe they don't mind, but I'd be annoyed if someone asked me to make a promise that I didn't have to make, and then they later declined the very thing that they asked me to promise them.

 

Again, I understand it at the individual level.  Might be bad timing financially, or so much time passed since you added your name and things have changed, ect.  But when I commit to something, I always follow through, barring extreme circumstances.


I would totally go for either a non-refundable deposit or pre-paid in order to guarantee a spot.  Sort of like leffot works things.  We know how many of each size we're confirmed for and we'll sell the pre-order spaces.  Done deal. 

post #81744 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post


Shut up Bakes11771.  Your point, as always, is invalid and you are a bitter individual that detracts from the decorum of this thread.  I hope that one day you overcome whatever internal conflict that you are suffering from and learn how to be a more pleasant person.

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(Not used to people here agreeing with me, so I had to disagree with myself)
I actually agree with you in this case, Bakes. I just shuddered typing that.

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post #81745 of 122416
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I hope Alden starts ordering from Comipel like Trickers.

Would sort of go against the whole purely american thing that they have going for them.  Not sure if they care.

 

Also might harm there relationship with Horween.  I have no way of knowing for sure, but it is common for manufacturers and suppliers to have long-term contracts that basically say "you buy only from us, we'll give you a better deal than we would if you used multiple suppliers".

 

Also, their cultures seem similar.  Multi-generation family owned american heritage craftsmanship.  Doing things the old-fasioned way and resisting adoption of modern manufacturing techniques.

post #81746 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

I can understand when people individually pass on a shoe for which they added themselves to a list, but I am surprised by the perceived aggregate amount of people that are passing on the DC Cigar Captoes.  If I was them, and it is really as rampant as it seems, I would just stop doing the lists all together.


Seems like too much trouble keeping track of everything when so many people end up passing.


Either that, or I'd start taking a non-refunable deposit.  Or not let people that have passed previously get on future lists.


Maybe they don't mind, but I'd be annoyed if someone asked me to make a promise that I didn't have to make, and then they later declined the very thing that they asked me to promise them.


Again, I understand it at the individual level.  Might be bad timing financially, or so much time passed since you added your name and things have changed, ect.  But when I commit to something, I always follow through, barring extreme circumstances.

 


I agree with this for the most part. However, Kathy makes it clear that there is no obligation whatsoever to purchase the shoes once you place your name on the list. If maintaining a voluntary list is difficult or annoying for them, then they should change their policy. When I've placed my name on lists in the past, Kathy always reminds me that there is no pressure to purchase the shoes/boots when they arrive.

True statement.
post #81747 of 122416

I was kind of surprised the 9D list made it to #8, when I was #5 on the 8.5D list and never got a call. (re. cigar cap toes)

post #81748 of 122416

I wasn't in the market for these boots at all, but given all the kerfuffle about them that has erupted, just for kicks (pun intended) I called Kathy to see if they had a 10 D laying around.  No dice.  I mention this in case anyone else was thinking about calling to inquire after that size . . . 

post #81749 of 122416

Cigar Grant Cap's

 

post #81750 of 122416
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Originally Posted by bkotsko View Post

I was kind of surprised the 9D list made it to #8, when I was #5 on the 8.5D list and never got a call. (re. cigar cap toes)

 


Agreed - I just think the competition for 8.5D's is fierce!
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