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I'm looking into some unlined color 8 shell dovers. I'm curious as to how much more rolling they get compared to normal lined versions. Does anyone have some worn in unlined shell pictures they can share?
Here's a picture of some #8 Dovers without trees (about 4 months old and worn 2-3 times per week).


Thanks for that! Would you say they roll more than lined versions? I'd use shoe trees, so I am guessing that would help.
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Why are you not using shoe trees?

I do use trees, just not in the picture...I guess that was obvious though...:embar:

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Thanks for that! Would you say they roll more than lined versions? I'd use shoe trees, so I am guessing that would help.

I tree my black cordovan dovers, and they do show slightly more rolls than my lined PTB (though not to the extent of the color 8 dovers pictured above). Despite that, I would say my dovers still look "dressier" than the standard PTB due to its overall smaller size
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Thanks for that! Would you say they roll more than lined versions? I'd use shoe trees, so I am guessing that would help.

I don't own any lined PTBs, but from what I've seen and read the unlined wrinkle much more.  They're comfortable as hell though.

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Kind of off topic, but after reading the ruckus going on in the Oak Street Bootmakers thread, I understand why some manufacturers are reluctant to work with shell

Honestly what's going on there has more to do with a lack of transparency than it does with shell. There are some clear structural issues which people are behind told are "within spec" and posts are being deleted to hide issues and remove negative press. I get mistakes happen but I have lost all respect for OSB. sorry for derailing the thread...
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Stick with high oil content conditioners (Neatsfoot, Sedgwick, etc.). I've used some beeswax based cream, but vegetable tanned leather will still shoe scuffs and wear more so than other leathers. Builds character. Conditioning does seem to even it out some.

The most evil device in an office for shoes is the Keurig machine. I had the overflow reservoir splash coffee on my Church Hills when emptying. Over time with the oils though, it just seemed to blend in.

http://indigoshrimp.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/concerning-the-care-of-natural-vegetable-tanned-leather-goods-part-i/

Thanks. Think Pecard's would do the trick? I've got a lot of it at the house.
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The antique edge truly makes the difference. I'm convinced that Colour 8 is impregnated with some type of chameleon trait.
I'm certainly in the minority here, but I don't like antique edging with Color 8.  

Cigar/whiskey/4 = antique
Color 8/black = dark
Ravello = indifferent, lean towards dark

Just putting it out there, other opinions likely vary. 
You are certainly not alone on this one, even on this thread.
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I tree my black cordovan dovers, and they do show slightly more rolls than my lined PTB (though not to the extent of the color 8 dovers pictured above). Despite that, I would say my dovers still look "dressier" than the standard PTB due to its overall smaller size

100% agreement

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I fully agree that there are definitely advantages to both the antique edges and the dark edges.

I have a preference toward the dark edges with the reverse welt. The flat welt on the tanker looks amazing in antique, as it is more subtle.

This being said, we can not argue with the beauty that lies in the shell color 8 depth.

The pic I posted earlier was in my office this morning, and it looked very dark.

The pic below was a few minutes ago in some sunlight, with no editing... The shell color is phenomenal, regardless of the welt color.

 

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How often should I bone (deer bone) shell cordovan...  After each wearing to smooth out the rolls or just a few times a month?   

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I fully agree that there are definitely advantages to both the antique edges and the dark edges.
I have a preference toward the dark edges with the reverse welt. The flat welt on the tanker looks amazing in antique, as it is more subtle.
This being said, we can not argue with the beauty that lies in the shell color 8 depth.
The pic I posted earlier was in my office this morning, and it looked very dark.
The pic below was a few minutes ago in some sunlight, with no editing... The shell color is phenomenal, regardless of the welt color.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Agreed, bk. The depth of color on my #8 LWB is amazing in the sun.
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Thanks. Think Pecard's would do the trick? I've got a lot of it at the house.

I haven't used, but the lotions and oils look good (and specifically say wax free and for oil tanned leather). Maybe try a light coat on the shoe tongue first. 

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Thanks for that! Would you say they roll more than lined versions? I'd use shoe trees, so I am guessing that would help.

Mine roll like that too. Definitely would roll more than the lined version. The unlined upper is simply more flexible and thus more sensitive to your foot movements.

Shoe trees won't help reducing the rolls. Once they are there they are there. Shoe tress just reduce the appearance of the rolls when you are not wearing them.
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Mine roll like that too. Definitely would roll more than the lined version. The unlined upper is simply more flexible and thus more sensitive to your foot movements.

Shoe trees won't help reducing the rolls. Once they are there they are there. Shoe tress just reduce the appearance of the rolls when you are not wearing them.
Why does one care what his shoes look like when he is not wearing them? I don't think that is the sole purpose of shoe trees.
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Why does one care what his shoes look like when he is not wearing them? I don't think that is the sole purpose of shoe trees.

They serve other purposes. Such as absorbing moisture and maintaining the shape of the shoes over time. But they don't reduce rolls
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