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post #73996 of 122416
Got to disagree. A dressy wingtip blucher boot is still not that dressy at all.

Just don't wear with your wingtip pants and wingtip sweater. Too matchy-matchy.

EDIT: plaza PT or captoe, I see the argument a bit more, though would still wear with jeans on some occasions
post #73997 of 122416
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Originally Posted by smoothie1 View Post
 

This is not quite true. Brooks Brothers will do a few makeups in whiskey and cigar shell from time to time; whether this qualifies as exotic, it beats me.  However, I have not seen them on the website. 

I would love to see photos of such models if you or anyone here has them.  Never seen anything but black and color 8 come out of BB.

post #73998 of 122416
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Originally Posted by thebeebs View Post
 

I would love to see photos of such models if you or anyone here has them.  Never seen anything but black and color 8 come out of BB.

The only one I've ever seen (not in person) was a whiskey unlined LHS. It will pop-up on google although there is not much of a discernible difference via photo relative to the lined whiskey LHS

post #73999 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post



All things being equal, Brooks Brothers shoes tend to be dressier and sleeker lasted than their close Alden branded equivalents. They rarely are 30% off anymore.



There was a case a couple of years ago where an eBay buyer successfully claimed with eBay that Brooks Brothers Alden shoes weren't true "Aldens" and therefore got a refund for the shoes after sending them back. Most BB models aren't "rare" so don't see them getting huge resale value on eBay (beyond normal cordovan resale value)

 



If BB's version has the same signature glossy finish in its shell like that of Alden's version, I'm down to grab a pair at 30% off whenever it becomes available. I'm guessing that's one of the better discounts out there for Alden shoes.
post #74000 of 122416

Regarding my question earlier where I linked to the LHS - Do the BB versions use the same last? Or do they use a different last as is the case with some of AE's makeups for RL and such?

post #74001 of 122416
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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

Will you guys think less of me if I pick up a Barrie king wt boot in addition to my plaza? Because such is the way of the Alden...

I have a couple pair of Barrie lasted #8 boots (Tanker and Wingtip, as well as Pitt boot on order) and don't see a problem with adding the Plaza Indy to my collection. The more boots the merrier?

Really though, I would have been happy with a #8 Indy boot on the Barrie if such a beast exists... basically, I just don't really care for the TrueBalance last. It fits nicely and is comfortable, I just find the shape unpleasing.
post #74002 of 122416

I've seen a color 8 indy on barrie at Alden SF before...they usually put their boots on barrie.

post #74003 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Vicious49 View Post

Regarding my question earlier where I linked to the LHS - Do the BB versions use the same last? Or do they use a different last as is the case with some of AE's makeups for RL and such?

I own the BB LHS cordovan loafers, and I can tell you that they fit exactly like Alden's Van last (ie the non-BB version). Further, I have the BB tassel loafers, which fit exactly like Alden's Aberdeen last. Based off these two data points, I am going to say that they BB Aldens fit exactly like their Alden counterparts. The LHS are the exact same shoe, while the loafers have stitching by the heel.

As this was my follow-up question regarding the LHS, the Van last sizes very closely to the Barrie.

Lastly, yes, as far as I know, the BB 30% off is the most dependable way to get a significant discount on Alden cordovan.
post #74004 of 122416

Having some sliding issues with my oil waterlock sole. I've worn these in the aftermath of some of the snow/salt that has been left on our sidewalks. I haven't really worn them in wet slushy conditions so they have not soaked through with water etc. Just maybe stepping on some wet puddles. I noticed that I was sliding on hardwood floors, which hadn't happened before.  I looked at the soles and there was some salt/silica pieces wedged in there.  I scrapped those off with a plastic knife, but I'm still sliding around. This is also happening with that tile that is in office buildings (linoleum?).  I'm like Tom Cruise in that film where he's in his underwear singing that Bob Seger song.

 

Any suggestions?

post #74005 of 122416
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Originally Posted by blackboard_knowledge View Post


I own the BB LHS cordovan loafers, and I can tell you that they fit exactly like Alden's Van last (ie the non-BB version). Further, I have the BB tassel loafers, which fit exactly like Alden's Aberdeen last. Based off these two data points, I am going to say that they BB Aldens fit exactly like their Alden counterparts. The LHS are the exact same shoe, while the loafers have stitching by the heel.

As this was my follow-up question regarding the LHS, the Van last sizes very closely to the Barrie.

Lastly, yes, as far as I know, the BB 30% off is the most dependable way to get a significant discount on Alden cordovan.

Thanks for the detailed response.

 

JCrew sales might be another option in getting a discount on alden shell. Their sales will sometimes work for a bit until they realize it and start excluding brands. I was able to get my Indys this way as well as my Barbour Bedale for 25% off.

post #74006 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Vicious49 View Post
 

Regarding my question earlier where I linked to the LHS - Do the BB versions use the same last? Or do they use a different last as is the case with some of AE's makeups for RL and such?

 

 

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Originally Posted by blackboard_knowledge View Post


I own the BB LHS cordovan loafers, and I can tell you that they fit exactly like Alden's Van last (ie the non-BB version). Further, I have the BB tassel loafers, which fit exactly like Alden's Aberdeen last. Based off these two data points, I am going to say that they BB Aldens fit exactly like their Alden counterparts. The LHS are the exact same shoe, while the loafers have stitching by the heel.

As this was my follow-up question regarding the LHS, the Van last sizes very closely to the Barrie.

Lastly, yes, as far as I know, the BB 30% off is the most dependable way to get a significant discount on Alden cordovan.

I've done a some research into most of the BB models and I own a few - there are varying accounts across the internet of last and sizing advice including within this thread although there seems to be a solid consensus at this point in terms of last names, I would suggest doing some digging particularly related to sizing unless of course you can get to a shop that stocks these models and try them on.  For the cordovan models I believe they all have different styling relative to Alden specific models except for the tassel which is more or less the same aside from foxing at the heel. For example, the PTB has a 270 degree heel & metal eyelets, the short wing has metal eyelets and other variations, etc.

 

My understanding of the lasts is the following:

 

Tassels-Aberdeen last

LHS - Van(BB version is unlined) - within the Q&A on BB site a corporate rep say it is on the Van last

Straight Tip Blucher - Snap Last(I took TTS)

Short Wing- M-75 Last(I took TTS)

Plain Toe Blucher - M58 (Definitely narrower than Barrie In my experience)

Cap Toe Balmoral - Snap Last


Edited by NYDRH - 2/19/14 at 12:14pm
post #74007 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post



All things being equal, Brooks Brothers shoes tend to be dressier and sleeker lasted than their close Alden branded equivalents. They rarely are 30% off anymore.



There was a case a couple of years ago where an eBay buyer successfully claimed with eBay that Brooks Brothers Alden shoes weren't true "Aldens" and therefore got a refund for the shoes after sending them back. Most BB models aren't "rare" so don't see them getting huge resale value on eBay (beyond normal cordovan resale value)

 



If BB's version has the same signature glossy finish in its shell like that of Alden's version, I'm down to grab a pair at 30% off whenever it becomes available. I'm guessing that's one of the better discounts out there for Alden shoes.

As I understand things, the only time one is ever able to get 30% off Alden shells at BB is when they have their corporate discount sale/event. However, corporate members always get 15% off regular priced Alden shells. Beyond the corporate discount, Alden shell is excluded from nearly every (perhaps every) sale.

The shell finish is the same as the stock models. BB's shell cordovan shoes are typically all made by Alden (but they won't say Alden) - unless they are identified as Harry's of London or as Rancourt or as being made in England (the occasional shell boot from C&J). BB's online pictures of Alden shells are generally horrible and should not be taken seriously.
post #74008 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

All things being equal, Brooks Brothers shoes tend to be dressier and sleeker lasted than their close Alden branded equivalents. They rarely are 30% off anymore.

There was a case a couple of years ago where an eBay buyer successfully claimed with eBay that Brooks Brothers Alden shoes weren't true "Aldens" and therefore got a refund for the shoes after sending them back. Most BB models aren't "rare" so don't see them getting huge resale value on eBay (beyond normal cordovan resale value)

If memory serves correctly, that gentlemen who questioned the genuine Alden-origins of the BB shoe eventually kept the shoe. :censored:

post #74009 of 122416

Whiskey Wednesday...  finally some nice almost-spring-like weather!

post #74010 of 122416
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Regarding my question earlier where I linked to the LHS - Do the BB versions use the same last? Or do they use a different last as is the case with some of AE's makeups for RL and such?

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Originally Posted by blackboard_knowledge View Post

I own the BB LHS cordovan loafers, and I can tell you that they fit exactly like Alden's Van last (ie the non-BB version). Further, I have the BB tassel loafers, which fit exactly like Alden's Aberdeen last. Based off these two data points, I am going to say that they BB Aldens fit exactly like their Alden counterparts. The LHS are the exact same shoe, while the loafers have stitching by the heel.


As this was my follow-up question regarding the LHS, the Van last sizes very closely to the Barrie.


Lastly, yes, as far as I know, the BB 30% off is the most dependable way to get a significant discount on Alden cordovan.
I've done a some research into most of the BB models and I own a few - there are varying accounts across the internet of last and sizing advice including within this thread although there seems to be a solid consensus at this point in terms of last names, I would suggest doing some digging particularly related to sizing unless of course you can get to a shop that stocks these models and try them on.  For the cordovan models I believe they all have different styling relative to Alden specific models except for the tassel which is more or less the same aside from foxing at the heel. For example, the PTB has a 270 degree heel & metal eyelets, the short wing has metal eyelets and other variations, etc.

My understanding of the lasts is the following:

Tassels-Aberdeen last
LHS - Van(BB version is unlined and has a different sole) - within the Q&A on BB site a corporate rep say it is on the Van last
Straight Tip Blucher - Snap Last(I took TTS)
Short Wing- M-75 Last(I took TTS)
Plain Toe Blucher - M58 (Definitely narrower than Barrie In my experience)
Cap Toe Balmoral - Snap Last

I own, or have owned, every Alden for BB model currently offered by BB. This information on lasts is correct.

My unlined LHS has the same sole as my lined LHS - but perhaps I am misunderstanding you.
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