Thank you Sabutai, you gave a name to the two different welts, I appreciate it very much! Knowing the names helps to overcome the disappointment...
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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos. - Page 4815post #72212 of 1224161/30/14 at 3:58amQuote:Originally Posted by Subutai
There are so many more qualified people on here to answer this question. Since I'm up, however, I'll provide an initial response. The first model you are referring to seems to have a 270 degree flat welt (thus the closed heel) whereas the second has a 360 degree split-reverse welt.
Generally, the 270 degree flat welt is a bit sleeker and, as you mentioned, more formal. The 360 split-reverse is certainly more casual. Different Alden retailers have different special make ups and sometimes leave it up to us customers to find exactly what we're looking for. As to the model names/numbers, I'll have to leave this to the more experienced members.
Hope this helps!post #72213 of 1224161/30/14 at 4:30amQuote:Originally Posted by ironclad
I live in Newport News, VA. We rarely get more than a few snow flurries each winter. Last night we received nearly 10" of snow. Normally this would be an exciting thing, but today I was expecting a box from Adam at Alden of Carmel. So why should snow matter? I stand by my belief that the state of Virginia owns a single snow plow that is shared by the cities, towns, and counties.
I'm in northern VA and we have plows all over the place. If they know a big storm is coming, you'll sometimes see them lined up alongside roads and highways just waiting for the storm to hit. We get hit with snow more than you guys further south though.Quote:Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster
You joke, but I actually value interacting with many of you! Who else will I chat with about my favorite shoes? The level of civility here is much higher than most other blogs/forums. I appreciate all of the regulars here and those who choose to come aboard.
Much thanks all...
This particular thread is civil. In some other threads you get a lot more snobbiness and smart ass answers.
I have to ask - what is the deal with the whole 'nephew' thing?post #72214 of 1224161/30/14 at 4:56amQuote:
I should post more then. You know, to keep you coming back for more ;-)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkpost #72215 of 1224161/30/14 at 5:08ampost #72216 of 1224161/30/14 at 5:11amQuote:Originally Posted by MoosicPa
I took delivery of these Alden for J.Crew Cadet shoes today..... I know some here don't like the fact that they are a blucher with a cap toe, but I like them....
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I think the main reason some don't like the cadet shoe is the Barrie last, not the fact that it's a cap toe blucher. For a cap toe blucher, they'd prefer a sleeker last, such as the Aberdeen used on the 2160/2161, or the Snap used on the BB version.post #72217 of 1224161/30/14 at 5:11ampost #72218 of 1224161/30/14 at 5:20ampost #72219 of 1224161/30/14 at 5:21ampost #72220 of 1224161/30/14 at 6:08amQuote:
Yup, that's where I got mine from on Tuesday. Wasn't expecting to pick up anything like that but they looked so nice in person that I was like - screw the chukkas!Quote:
That was me. They came in 2 days ago and are in fact an E width. They fit me fine but the color was definitely more green than blue so they are going back. I lose the return shipping costs but it was a small price to pay if they had in fact been more of a blue/navy.post #72221 of 1224161/30/14 at 6:11ampost #72222 of 1224161/30/14 at 6:38amQuote:
The number on the business card is 202-347-2308 and the email address is firstname.lastname@example.org. I'm not sure what the best way to go about it is since I went in to the store to pick them up. Joe was the one who helped me and he was great. Very patient and had me try on as many different sizes of various styles as he thought we needed until I got the perfect fit. The manager is Kathy and she seemed very polite as well although I didn't end up interacting with her as much.post #72223 of 1224161/30/14 at 6:40amQuote:Originally Posted by icepick74
Re: Straight Tip Blucher with unusual sole
I am an Italian fan of Alden shoes and I wonder if someone can answer this.
The most common and "official" Straight Tip Blucher model looks like this. ( http://www.aldenshop.com/Store/DrawProducts.aspx?CategoryID=107&ParentID=94&PageID=&Action )
As you can see, the sole which "exceeds" the upper (where the stitches are visible) starting from the tip at a certain point starts becoming "aligned" with the upper, until it is completely under the upper where the heel is. As a consequence, for instance, it becomes not visible if you look at the shoe from above. The feel is of a somehow formal shoe.
But there are a few shops that sells the following model (http://www.endclothing.co.uk/alden-straight-tip-blucher.html )
Here the "exceeding-the-upper" part of the sole is all around the shoe, including the heel part. Consequently such part is visible from above. The feel here is less formal. Those shops do not advise on this difference.
Does anyone know what happened here?
Truth is that a tried and loved at first sight the second model at a shop where I live (Italy), but then ordered them online from a shop in NY and when they arrived I realized they were the first "official" model, which I like very much anyway, but still I think I would have preferred the second "unusual" one.
the Top one is the 2160 Aberdeen last, while the one in Endclothing is the 2170 Y Barrie lastpost #72224 of 1224161/30/14 at 6:47ampost #72225 of 1224161/30/14 at 7:09amQuote:
Thank you Prez, I googled 2170 Y and I found more images http://www.manifestcreations.net/goods/20140810083752-2309.html
Not that at this point it is of capital importance, but for the sake of completeness - although you are probably right - I confess I am not 100% (only 90% ) convinced that it's the Barrie last. I mean, yes the welt is surely larger but the upper looks just the same of the 2160 Aberdeen, just put on a differently shaped welt. Shouldn't the last be something concerning the shape of the upper (so basically the inner part) and not of the sole/welt?
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