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post #72151 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bond111 View Post

Looking for some guidance here. I just got my Alden's from J Crew(first ever pair), and noticed a few things when I first opened the box. I wasn't sure if they were due to making them by hand, and it's normal, or if I am needing to send them back in hopes for a better looking pair. Thanks


 

 

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Originally Posted by Vicious49 View Post
 

That notch in the 1st pic is where the welt ends or something to that affect. I don't know the technical term so someone else should be able to clear that up. My captoe boots I got from Alden DC yesterday have the same notch on both shoes. I've seen them on AE shoes in the past and was hoping Aldens didn't have as big a notch, but it seems that they do.

 

 

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Originally Posted by tigerpac View Post
 

^Alden 'notches' are often less clean than they should be.  I've got a couple of pairs of Trickers and they do a better job on that end.

 

Vicious49 is correct.  That is where the welt starts/stops on the shoe.  It is inevitable to see this at some level on a 360 degree welted shoe, but I agree that it is particularly messy on this pair.  

post #72152 of 122416
Think the calf vs shell issue in terms of the shine of cordovan vs the shine on calf. Cordovan has that special shine that can look plasticky to people compared to calf in most cases. Also think creasing rolls are less formal than calf creasing

That said probably would prefer black shell captoe just so you don't ever have to put effort into shining
Edited by stevent - 1/29/14 at 1:41pm
post #72153 of 122416
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That said probably would prefer black shell captoe just so you don't ever have to put effort into shining
Haha. New slogan: "Shell cordovan. The slacker's shoe". LOL
post #72154 of 122416
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

Haha. New slogan: "Shell cordovan. The slacker's shoe". LOL

Haha it is though. You can pretty much do anything to Alden cordovan and it cleans up within 5 min with damp cloth and brushing
post #72155 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bond111 View Post

Looking for some guidance here. I just got my Alden's from J Crew(first ever pair), and noticed a few things when I first opened the box. I wasn't sure if they were due to making them by hand, and it's normal, or if I am needing to send them back in hopes for a better looking pair. Thanks

I've got the same shoes and mine have the notches on the welt also. I don't have any pics but they look pretty similar to yours.
post #72156 of 122416
if youre concerned with keeping up appearances calf is much more forgiving; it can hold its shine much longer. yes its easier to get a shine on shell, but shell will typically turn matte after a couple of day and/or is exposed to the elements. also if your shoes bounce around underneath you while you work, then expect unevenness in the the appearance.

also this thread has become so fucking boring
post #72157 of 122416
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

if youre concerned with keeping up appearances calf is much more forgiving; it can hold its shine much longer. shell will typically turn matte after a couple of day and/or is exposed to the elements. also if your shoes bounce around underneath you while you work, then expect unevenness in the the appearance.

this thread has become so fucking boring by the way

There's only so many times you can say something about Alden before it's all been said before. That's the problem with decades old manufacturers who never do anything new or different.

post #72158 of 122416
Yeah i guess youre right. I wish i could filter this thread for images and avoid the discussion altogether. no one should be asking how to care for their shoes or polling others on which alden shell model they'd take away with them if stuck on a deserted island.
post #72159 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

"Cordovan is less dressy than calf"

If you put an Alden black cordovan balmoral captoe and something like an Allen Edmond Park Avenue in black calfskin in front of people, 90% will say the cordovan is "dressier" because it will look shinier. To most people, the 9016 will look "nicer" than the Park Avenue and therefore be considered "dressier."

"Formality" is a bit of a different concept as some will say that the cordovan may be too "glowy," but very few people will really care. I will admit that black calfskin in chiseled, sleek lasts (Edward Green chelsea, whatever) will usually look more "formal" than almost any cordovan, but that doesn't make cordovan any less credible as a "dress leather."

I would argue in some models of boots, cordovan (such as the beloved captoe on grant or plaza) can look undeniably "dressier" than calfskin.Very long ago, cordovan may have been a "workwear" shoe (I don't really know what workwear is even after spending three years on the forum), but since the 1940s, cordovan has been used in dress shoes.

I'm not going after you specifically on this, I just think some of the styleforum conventional wisdom on this is incorrect

I agree that, all else being equal, "technically" (by the book) calf is more formal than cordovan. In real life, however, it will not make a bit of a difference 99.999999% of the time. The end, as far I am concerned.
post #72160 of 122416
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also this thread has become so fucking boring

I agree.  I told myself that I would stop reading, but I clearly haven't. There aren't many models that interest me that I don't already have, except a few that aren't available and a small enough amount that it doens't really justify me spending the amount of time that I do following this thread, but it has just become a routine/habit over the past 2 years.

 

Edit:  BTW, where can I get replacement laces for my Indy boots?

post #72161 of 122416
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post


If it bothers you exchange them. I know your first pair of Alden's you are expecting perfection and with some you will get it and other you won't. Jcrew customer service is awese so exchange till you get a pair that is to your standards.




Vicious49 is correct.  That is where the welt starts/stops on the shoe.  It is inevitable to see this at some level on a 360 degree welted shoe, but I agree that it is particularly messy on this pair.  
post #72162 of 122416
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

if youre concerned with keeping up appearances calf is much more forgiving; it can hold its shine much longer. yes its easier to get a shine on shell, but shell will typically turn matte after a couple of day and/or is exposed to the elements. also if your shoes bounce around underneath you while you work, then expect unevenness in the the appearance.

also this thread has become so fucking boring

This.

"Black shell is so underrated" plus Mac sycophancy = deadhorse-a.gif

Here's a random alden pic from a long time ago, for posterity:

post #72163 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Roguls View Post

"Black shell is so underrated" plus Mac sycophancy = deadhorse-a.gif

Nephew, for this thread I believe that should be "brushing a dead horse".
Brush only in good health.
post #72164 of 122416
The thread has become more or less a one-stop shop or encyclopedia for the entire internet regarding Alden shoes. Want to know which retailer has the latest ravello or cigar model for sale? How to care for a certain type of leather? What types of models are even available? Since Alden isn't running its own blog or tumblr like every other manufacturer, people have to come here, which leads to more basic questions and more informational posts.
post #72165 of 122416
The thread has become so large that it can be difficult to locate pieces of information that one may be looking for, thus leading to new members posting questions that most of us see on a weekly basis. I agree that at the end of the day there is only so many topics to cover in regards to Alden. Seldom if ever are new styles or materials introduced into the market place.
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