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thanks. feedback from you all was very informative and helpful. much appreciated

Seems a lot of people here prefer the dover and/or the single sole versions because they do appear to be a bit sleeker. After looking at a bunch of pictures I think Im actually leaning towards the classic 990 or some version of it with antique edge trim. Strange thing about the 990 and 9901 PTB is I used to find it a bit boring and unattractive.. Now its the Alden model I am most interested in. The chunky last and the lack of sleekness is what I find most appealing about it in a strange way.

Called the Madison shop which offers the 990 in double leather sole and also on the commando but they were sold out in my Barrie size (9.5).
Can anyone think of any downsides if I can find the 990 on the commando sole compared to the traditional leather? I think the commando looks pretty cool with it and I work as a chef so I rarely need the shoes for formal occasions. Mostly wear with jeans and chinos.

This may be a dumb question to most on here but how can I tell by looking at a pair of my Aldens if they are unlined? I have a pair of black cordovan boots that are white on the inside with what looks like no extra lining but im not sure. Would seem weird for a boot to be unlined I would think
Most think the commando soles are less dressy than the double leather sole.  If you were wearing these shoes with sport coat, tie and slacks, you might (or might not) think a double leather sole would be more appropriate than the commando sole.  for your intended use with jeans and chinos, either sole would be just fine and, in fact, if you think commando is less dressy than double leather, you might prefer commando over double leather for your use.

Double leather soles remain stiff, and thus need more break-in time, than commando soles.  People comment about this so I offer it for your consideration.   Personally, this consideration seems like  a miniscule tail -- say a pimple on a nub of a tail -- wagging a gigantic dog since, in my experience, the differential in break-in time is, perhaps, one hour of wear, if that, compared to decades of shoe life with either sole.     

If you live in a climate that gets snow and ice, commando has the decided advantage over double leather in that the commando sole allows you to safely walk in snow and ice whereas the double leather will cause you to slip and is flat dangerous in those conditions.  If you have a wintery climate and want to wear the shoes in wintery conditions, this can be very important.  

Finally, if you simply prefer the way one looks over the other, then get the one you like.   

If you have white leather on the inside, that white leather is the lining -- leather on the inside of the shoe that is separate from the cordovan on the outside.  Unlined cordovan is tan colored on the inside of the shoe -- the stained side of the cordovan hide is on the outside of the shoe, and the unstained side of that same piece of leather is on the inside of the shoe.  The cordovan Alden uses is from a Chicago, IL tannery named Horween.  Many here get a big kick out of it when they get an unlined cordovan shoe and Horween's stamp is visible -- for example, on the underside of the tongue.  

With whatever sole you get, the color 8 cordovan plain toe blucher is an iconic American shoe, that, with care, will last for decades and always be in style.  I hope you really enjoy them.

Many insightful comments made here. nod[1].gif
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I'm just starting to dress up more, though my style is casual. I was just wondering what two shoes I should start out with? I know I really like the long wing blucher and I prefer brown over black.

Welcome to this idiosyncratic and very informative forum and to your evolving aesthetic.  I hope you enjoy it and it is not too expensive for you.

 

You say you are starting to dress up more.  Of course, there is dressing up and there is dressing up.  Since you also say your style is casual, I would assume dressing up more means things like nice jeans, tailored or wool slacks,  collared dress shirts and maybe sport coats and ties, and does not mean navy, charcoal or pinstripe suits every day.  I am going to make my comments based upon this assumption.  If the assumption is wrong and you are wearing suits, I would have some different suggestions.

 

Your instinct to get a longwing blucher and get it in a brown color is a great choice for the kind of dress you appear to be describing.  A longwing, particularly in color 8 cordovan (burgundy color),  is a relatively casual dress shoe and it is very versatile.  It looks as fantastic and appropriate with jeans, slacks in the color spectrum all the way from black to tan, as it does slacks and sport coat.  Plus, like the plain toe blucher, the longwing is a classic American shoe that will always be in style.  

 

You can find the Alden longwing plentifully in all colors of calfskin leather (black, dark brown, medium brown, tan, dark suede) and find retailer-specific make-ups pretty readily in dark brown or black regina grain, tan or medium brown alpine grain and tan and snuff suede, or in black and color 8 cordovan.  The calfskin will cost you about $150 less than the cordovan model.  I would strongly urge you to start out with the color 8 cordovan because of the unique beauty of the cordovan, its durability and longevity, its relative ease of care and the versatility of the color.  

 

Suggestion for a second shoe:  the iconic choice would be a plain toe blucher, also in color 8 cordovan or a brown calfskin.  

 

Another classic option with which you could not go wrong is a loafer, either in color 8 cordovan or dark or medium brown calfskin.

 

Another choice would be the Indy boot in brown cromexcel leather.  The Indy boot is, literally, a workboot so is more casual than the longwing and most would think it a stretch to wear with sportcoat and tie ensemble.  However, you can wear it the Indy boot with just about anything else because the brown cxl is versatile and looks rich.  

 

Finally, and I believe I am saving the best for last, I suggest you consider a norwegian front shoe or boot, sometimes known as NST or NFT design.  Many shoemakers offer a split toe shoe or boot with a seam in the middle of the toe.  Alden offers shoes and boots with unapologetic mocc stitching in the middle of the toe that connects to moc stitching around the perimeter of the vamp of the shoe and seems to be a unique design feature in footwear.  This design can be polarizing:  many either love or hate it.  I fall decidedly in the former camp, and think the shoe is a great-looking and unique shoe that goes with a wide range of clothing again, particularly in color 8 cordovan.  

 

Good luck and happy hunting.

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No relation, but if you are in UK or can get this seller to ship, these seem like great deal -- suede/Color 8 saddle:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alden-Saddle-Shoes-UK-size-9-/291064544885?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item43c4cc7e75

JT
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I'm just starting to dress up more, though my style is casual. I was just wondering what two shoes I should start out with? I know I really like the long wing blucher and I prefer brown over black.


 



I have been loving the No. 8 Tanker w/ antique edging. A boot is like a mullet. Business up front. Party in the back.
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Your assumption was correct and I appreciate the time you spent to answer my question. Thanks.

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It's a selvedge and #8 chukka kind of day.
First pair of shell (used). Have to get used to the stiffness and the rolls from the previous owner.
This won't be my last pair of shell. Might have to get NAMOR to shine these babies up for me.

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I'm just starting to dress up more, though my style is casual. I was just wondering what two shoes I should start out with? I know I really like the long wing blucher and I prefer brown over black.

 



I have been loving the No. 8 Tanker w/ antique edging. A boot is like a mullet. Business up front. Party in the back.

 

:rotflmao:

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@ sounder: I would likely go with a ptb or chukka boot, preferably in shell #8. I would then acquire a high boot whether it be wingtip or cap toe.All would great for casual wear.
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A boot is like a mullet. Business up front. Party in the back.

Makes me want to sell my boots...hahaha
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Just FYI, I contacted Tres Bien, in regards to the Dovers and Spoke with Jesper. He stated the shoes are infact a width of E and not D. There goes two Dovers I would have bought. So Sad.

How did you ask him? I have ordered Aldens before and it's normal width. They describe it as UK E width which is US D width. They have said the same about other shoes being wide but they were normal for the brand
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I asked what the width is and he said the box says e width
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I'm just starting to dress up more, though my style is casual. I was just wondering what two shoes I should start out with? I know I really like the long wing blucher and I prefer brown over black.
@soundersfc2 I agree with your first instinct for the longwing. My style is very similar to yours. I would also look into the brown Chromexcel dover as sold by Epaulet and NeedSupply (and probably others). They are very versatile.

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a lot of talk lately abou the 990 (color 8 shell PTB) with a commando sole. In addition to Alden Madison, jgilbert has a pre-order going for that makeup with expected delivery next month (March). I'm on the pre-order....wish I would have known that alden madison had them in stock for instant gratification but I can wait another month......

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Just FYI, I contacted Tres Bien, in regards to the Dovers and Spoke with Jesper. He stated the shoes are infact a width of E and not D. There goes two Dovers I would have bought. So Sad.

 

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How did you ask him? I have ordered Aldens before and it's normal width. They describe it as UK E width which is US D width. They have said the same about other shoes being wide but they were normal for the brand

 

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I asked what the width is and he said the box says e width

 

Guess we'll find out next week. I ordered the blue Dovers in an 8.5 hoping that it was a D width. If it is a US E then they most likely will be heading back.

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