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A little zooming photo shop magic reveals that it is a double-sole.  "Double-sole" is a bit of a misnomer in that one of them is distinctively thinner on most models.  In other words, they don't generally take two standard soles and literally stack them.  Instead, the outermost one is a standard thickness, and the upper one is about half that.  See this photo of your shoes zoomed in with the layers marked by red lines (click to enlarge):

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

The uppermost layer is the welt, followed by the first sole, followed by the second sole. 

There he goes droppin' some knowledge.

Thanks MWS, as always.

post #69017 of 122416

King NST today.

 

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^^ Those are great, BK. They will be my next #8 shoes.
post #69019 of 122416
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There he goes droppin' some knowledge.

Thanks MWS, as always.

Serious knowledge, and photoshop skills. Thank you. It would appear that JCrew's description is just wrong. This was my thought until I searched by model #97785 and found the same shoe, except the eyelets, at Alden of NY Mine certainly look like a double sole but without an in person side by side comparison I was in doubt. The JCrew model also looks nearly identical to the LeatherSoul variety, which states a double sole.

 

On a related note, snuff suede LWB are excellent. Can't wait to break them in.

post #69020 of 122416
Guys,

Now that we have winter for real in Boston with snow and slush, do any of you wear Alden boots with commando soles on a day-to-day basis? I have some kudu chukkas which are completely weather proof but I would like to wear something more appropriate for business casual during the winter.

Thanks in advance,
Michael
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I just received a pair of snuff suede LWB from JCrew, I got lucky checking randomly and they must have gotten my size in on a return. They are reported to have single oiled/waterlock sole. I've had my eye on a number of LWB for a few months now and most seem to be on double soles, whether standard or waterlock. For the life of me I cannot tell the difference between the single and double sole in regards to an Alden LWB. In a comparison between a Bal or the like on a single leather sole and any double sole the difference is very clear.

Any input on the matter, how would one discern the difference and if there is one what is it? I'm confounded.
Here's my score. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




Tough to be absolutely certain from that angle, but I'm pretty sure that's a double.

I don't know of any Alden LWBs that are on single leather soles.

Leather Soul and Epaulet have both put out longwings on single flex welt.
http://epauletshop.tumblr.com/post/2863349324/alden-westegg
http://leathersoulhawaii.com/2011/08/09/alden-shoes-black-flex-longwing-lsw/
post #69022 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Michael_A View Post

Guys,

Now that we have winter for real in Boston with snow and slush, do any of you wear Alden boots with commando soles on a day-to-day basis? I have some kudu chukkas which are completely weather proof but I would like to wear something more appropriate for business casual during the winter.

Thanks in advance,
Michael

I wear my Indy boots on Commando on a daily basis in the Northeast. Haven't noticed any adverse effects yet.
post #69023 of 122416
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Originally Posted by jl70115 View Post
 

I just received a pair of snuff suede LWB from JCrew, I got lucky checking randomly and they must have gotten my size in on a return. They are reported to have single oiled/waterlock sole. I've had my eye on a number of LWB for a few months now and most seem to be on double soles, whether standard or waterlock. For the life of me I cannot tell the difference between the single and double sole in regards to an Alden LWB. In a comparison between a Bal or the like on a single leather sole and any double sole the difference is very clear. 

 

Any input on the matter, how would one discern the difference and if there is one what is it? I'm confounded. 

 

Here's my score.

 

May be my favorite Alden suede makeup (aside from MrDv's grail; Alden for J Crew snuff suede/color 8 saddles).  This is an awesome shoe with tremendous comfort!  I don't think Alden makes a LWB on a single leather sole [edit: I had not read the posts that followed the original, before writing this post.  However, the double leather-sole-rule-of-thumb for Alden LWBs is pretty reliable.  As mentioned though, there are some exceptions.].  Additionally, I don't think Alden makes a bal/oxford on anything other than a single leather sole [edit: This rule-of-thumb, I am pretty sure is even more solid].  I suppose the point being that more formal dress shoes typically come with a single leather sole, and dress shoes on the less formal end of the spectrum can come with a double leather sole.  Not sure this answers your question...

 

In any case, enjoy these beauties OFTEN and in great health, my friend!

post #69024 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Michael_A View Post

Guys,

Now that we have winter for real in Boston with snow and slush, do any of you wear Alden boots with commando soles on a day-to-day basis? I have some kudu chukkas which are completely weather proof but I would like to wear something more appropriate for business casual during the winter.

Thanks in advance,
Michael

I do.  Wipe and brush at end of day with no ill effects

I also use Defender on them

post #69025 of 122416
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by jl70115 View Post

 
I just received a pair of snuff suede LWB from JCrew, I got lucky checking randomly and they must have gotten my size in on a return. They are reported to have single oiled/waterlock sole. I've had my eye on a number of LWB for a few months now and most seem to be on double soles, whether standard or waterlock. For the life of me I cannot tell the difference between the single and double sole in regards to an Alden LWB. In a comparison between a Bal or the like on a single leather sole and any double sole the difference is very clear.

Any input on the matter, how would one discern the difference and if there is one what is it? I'm confounded.

Here's my score.



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Originally Posted by GooseG View Post

 

Tough to be absolutely certain from that angle, but I'm pretty sure that's a double.

I don't know of any Alden LWBs that are on single leather soles.


A little zooming photo shop magic reveals that it is a double-sole.  "Double-sole" is a bit of a misnomer in that one of them is distinctively thinner on most models.  In other words, they don't generally take two standard soles and literally stack them.  Instead, the outermost one is a standard thickness, and the upper one is about half that.  See this photo of your shoes zoomed in with the layers marked by red lines (click to enlarge):




The uppermost layer is the welt, followed by the first sole, followed by the second sole.   

MWS is right, and the term can be misleading, In fact, instead of "double leather sole" I have heard certain cobblers say (paraphrase) "so you want a leather outsole, with the addition of a midsole." The midsole is what MWS has deemed the "first sole" above.
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MWS is right, and the term can be misleading, In fact, instead of "double leather sole" I have heard certain cobblers say (paraphrase) "so you want a leather outsole, with the addition of a midsole." The midsole is what MWS has deemed the "first sole" above.

 

This is a good point.  For whatever reason, most manufacturers have fallen into the habit of calling the extra layer on Goodyear-welted shoes a "double-sole" and on Blake/Rapid constructed shoes, they call it a "midsole."  Both are describing the same thing and it is a case of semantics.

post #69027 of 122416

Then there is of course Heinrich Dinkelacker's shell cordovan bluchers on a triple leather sole!

 

http://www.pantaclothing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HD1

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My contribution to Whiskey Wednesday...


Shortwing Bal on Tremont, RL polka dot socks, otc.

post #69029 of 122416
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Then there is of course Heinrich Dinkelacker's shell cordovan bluchers on a triple leather sole!

 

http://www.pantaclothing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HD1

Man, that's a beast but very sweet

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Man, that's a beast but very sweet
+1!
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