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Originally Posted by LeCorb View Post

 

Your math is also off.  I got this Carmina shoe for $370 in the recent sale at Paul Stuart which is 42% lower than Alden's shell price.  You might say I am not comparing apple to apple.  But my question is why Alden never go on sale and restricting their retailer to discount the shoe.  It seems J.crew / Alden are buying up all the shell and driving the price up.  Is it legitimate for a single company to control all the shell supply?  Btw the quality of the Carmina shoe is so much better.  

You bought a shoe on a clearance sale that no one wants!  :rotflmao:

 

Just kidding my friend...  Your tassels look great; a fine score.  I probably would have given it a try at that price if the size were correct and it if it were in fact shell cordovan.  Wear often and in great health your tassels.

 

On another note, I seriously doubt J Crew and Alden are buying up all of the available shell.  How is it so easy then, to buy all of this shell from other producers that are so superior in quality and finish, not to mention doing an AE MTO in various shell colors??  Not sure I understand what "legitimate" means in your statement.  Are you suggesting an antitrust investigation?

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Originally Posted by stevent View Post

Carmina direct from Carmina is about $700 shipped for shell (any maybe a bit to DHL for duties) and $750 shipped or so from Skoaktie with no duties. It's $725-$785 for a shell boot these days with sales tax in some cases. So Carmina could be cheaper.

Same holds true for calf / suede models as they are about $460-500 shipped from same sources so same as Alden calf / suede prices


Personally my most recent Carmina shell has dye issues and lasting issues as well, so I'd say same level as Alden as their factory must be crazy busy.

I have Carmina shell, shoes and boots. The Carmina boots were $900. I prefer Alden going away.

My last Carmina's were returned - the difference in fit between the right and left shoe was laughable.
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Leffot got their black longwings in - a few sizes look to be available... This is a nice, dressy longwing with a flat welt and red lining. I expect this to be my go to black workweek shoe, should get mine on Monday or so

 

Sheer beauty! Wear in good health my friend/

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Unionmade has a nice new Indy boot smile.gif
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Carmina has never really appealed to me. I agree Alden has its faults which I have vented about in the past. However when Alden gets it right, they get it right. I have yet to see shell from anyone that rivals the depth of color 8. While their construction can certainly be picked apart, their dying process is about as good as it gets IMO. Value is subjective and difficult to truly quantify. I can only say that I have no regrets about forking over my hard earned money for my alden boots calf or shell.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

Carmina has never really appealed to me. I agree Alden has its faults which I have vented about in the past. However when Alden gets it right, they get it right. I have yet to see shell from anyone that rivals the depth of color 8. While their construction can certainly be picked apart, their dying process is about as good as it gets IMO. Value is subjective and difficult to truly quantify. I can only say that I have no regrets about forking over my hard earned money for my alden boots calf or shell.

 

agreed. which is why I have five pair I think, all with varying levels of depth depending on usage.

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+1. I sold my burgundy shell Carmina wingtip boot. Didn't really like the forest last and the shell lacked the depth of my #8 wingtip plaza balmoral. The fact that alden shell is so much easier to care for also factored into the decision
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Unionmade has a nice new Indy boot smile.gif

Thanks for the heads up. Love that snuff suede/red brick sole combo.
It looks like they also have a reverse chamois PTB (which I believe they have stocked in years past).
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I think I have 4-5 alden #8 shell and each is aging differently. The differences are starkly visible. jcrew boot is turning a red color, wingtip has looked brown from the beginning, another has maintained that dark, velvety eggplant depth, while another is a combination of all of the above depending on the environment
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

+1. I sold my burgundy shell Carmina wingtip boot. Didn't really like the forest last and the shell lacked the depth of my #8 wingtip plaza balmoral. The fact that alden shell is so much easier to care for also factored into the decision
NAMOR, does Carmina use Horween shell? If so, is it produced to different specifications than other shoe makers?
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Yes carmina uses horween. Alden's secret is in the dying process.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

Yes carmina uses horween. Alden's secret is in the dying process.

Thanks B. Is that something that Alden actually does itself, or does Horween dye to Alden's specifications?
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Alden itself.
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Random morning thought: has anyone done a PCT boot in chromexcel? Looking at Unionmade's Hanover model, I'd prefer to have this done in CXL; a nice makeup anyway

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Just to echo everyone else, Alden cordovan just tends to look better and "deeper" than other brands. I've observed many great cordovan pairs from many manufacturers; basically none had the amount of glow Alden typically has. I have a pair of Rider black balmoral captoe boots, and Alden black captoes win going away due to the glow of the cordovan. I've seen Edward Green cordovan pairs, and while well built, Alden's cordovan glows more. "Glow" and "depth of color" are not the only considerations but is a very big ones when buying cordovan
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