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You can't imagine the sum of money I'd pay to be on that order...

 

You bring up an interesting point, Tifosi...how much would you pay? What if we got a group together who was willing to pay a premium...and took it directly to Alden.

I would bet we could get 100 orders for a #4 makeup out of this thread. Let's say many might pay from 800-900. That would be an order for 80-90 thousand dollars! I would bet that order would rival many smaller Alden retailers orders per year and would make Alden take us seriously. Perhaps we could get someone like Mac to be the liason (if he isn't already!). I'm thinking something like a Gustin jeans model. We could probably even set it up as a Kickstarter if we got Alden's blessing. I have to believe that if they had a single order for 100 pairs of boots, they might at least take notice. 

post #61397 of 122416
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Originally Posted by luc13 View Post

my search experience to Alden cordovan boots in Berlin yesterday was a huge flop!

I was in 5 shops.
In 2 they had cordovan boots, but unfortunately the 12 was to short and in the 13, I slipped slightly from front to back.
A 12.5 is nowhere to be found.
One was the Naval Boot on the Barrie Last and than i tried a Indy Boot but there was the same Problems.

My hope was to find the right size for Alden ( i have a UK 12 in Edward Green und Crockett&Jones) AND a Cordovan Boot but no Boot and i dont really know my size.

I found a Tanker Cordovan in 12.5 online but there is no Lastg info. So i dont know if i need the 12.5 or the 13 because it maybe is a true size Last.

So tomorow the search will be continue.

Sorry for my bad english

All the Best

Gregor

Hello Gregor -

In case you haven't already checked the Alden site ( http://aldenshoe.com/ ), here's their current list of stockists:



GERMANY

Andreas Sapper
Calwer Strasse 5,
70173 Stuttgart, Germany

Budapester Schuhe
Kurfurstendamm 43,
10719 Berlin, Germany

Budapester Schuhe
Neuer Wall 30,
20354 Hamburg, Germany

Eduard Meier
Brienner Strasse 10,
80333 Munchen, Germany

Engelhorn Mode
Fabrikstationsstrasse 40,
68163 Mannheim

Fourteen Ounce
Muenzstrasse 21,
2 Hinterhof
10178 Berlin, Germany

Jerry's
Konigsalle 58,
40212 Dusseldorf, Germany

Moller & Moller
Joachimstrasse 4-6,
30159 Hannover, Germany

Raphael Cologne
Hohe Strasse 136,
50667 Koln, Germany

Schuh Exclusiv Kettler
Gransauplatz 5,
59755 Arnsberg, Germany

Schuhhaus Zumnorde
Prinzipalmarkt 34,
48143 Munster, Germany

Waltemode
88-90 Hauptstrasse,
64625 Bensheim an der Bergstrasse, Germany
post #61398 of 122416
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Originally Posted by JermynStreet View Post

You bring up an interesting point, Tifosi...how much would you pay? What if we got a group together who was willing to pay a premium...and took it directly to Alden.
I would bet we could get 100 orders for a #4 makeup out of this thread. Let's say many might pay from 800-900. That would be an order for 80-90 thousand dollars! I would bet that order would rival many smaller Alden retailers orders per year and would make Alden take us seriously. Perhaps we could get someone like Mac to be the liason (if he isn't already!). I'm thinking something like a Gustin jeans model. We could probably even set it up as a Kickstarter if we got Alden's blessing. I have to believe that if they had a single order for 100 pairs of boots, they might at least take notice. 

While I understand the idea of paying a premium for #4, I'd think offering to pay shell boot market price directly to the manufacturer would be just as convincing in the assumed quantities.
post #61399 of 122416
#4, I would probably be willing to pay in excess of 1k TBH.
post #61400 of 122416
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

#4, I would probably be willing to pay in excess of 1k TBH.

 

I think this is the general sentiment on this thread. Of course, we could offer retail price, but I think offering a premium (even small) would catch their attention.

post #61401 of 122416
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Originally Posted by JermynStreet View Post

You bring up an interesting point, Tifosi...how much would you pay? What if we got a group together who was willing to pay a premium...and took it directly to Alden.
I would bet we could get 100 orders for a #4 makeup out of this thread. Let's say many might pay from 800-900. That would be an order for 80-90 thousand dollars! I would bet that order would rival many smaller Alden retailers orders per year and would make Alden take us seriously. Perhaps we could get someone like Mac to be the liason (if he isn't already!). I'm thinking something like a Gustin jeans model. We could probably even set it up as a Kickstarter if we got Alden's blessing. I have to believe that if they had a single order for 100 pairs of boots, they might at least take notice. 
It is a possibility, although slim. Like bespokenpa said...I'd be in for $1,000 easy. But I'd rather pay market price as brp suggested.
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My only point was that offering market price -- which may have been poorly worded as I intended to say regular retail price -- directly to the manufacturer would already represent a significant premium for the manufacturer.

While I don't want to seem to be pooh-poohing this idea or be viewed as a complete naysayer -- because i would sign on for it in a heartbeat, even for over RRP -- I do have one significant concern. Considering the significant restrictions that appear to extend from Alden to its retailers, I would be surprised if there are not other restrictions which work in favor of the retailers. For example, I would think that, either by contract or by simple business dealings, Alden would be hesitant to bypass its dealers in this way even for a significant premium.
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Alden has more or less ignored ravello / cigar / color 4 orders from established retailers, there is basically zero chance they will look at an order from a group of buyers directly.

At this stage of the game, color 8 w / antique sole is the new ravello/color 4 in terms of special makeups
post #61404 of 122416
TSM advised me color 4 orders will not be filled as Alden will no longer produce #4 shoes/boots.
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linafelt - here's a photo from Leffot's tumblr:
http://leffot.tumblr.com/image/56696709018

 

Thanks! A nice pic...

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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Alden has more or less ignored ravello / cigar / color 4 orders from established retailers, there is basically zero chance they will look at an order from a group of buyers directly.

At this stage of the game, color 8 w / antique sole is the new ravello/color 4 in terms of special makeups

Sort of unrelated...
Can someone tell me why cigar is not a more common color? From what I have seen it is darker than #8, so why can't it be produced in the same quantity? I don't see them needing more "perfect" shells than they need for #8. Am I waaaay off base?
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^ you bring up a great point. I'm curious to know as well
post #61408 of 122416
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ you bring up a great point. I'm curious to know as well

 

+1. When I first heard of cigar being limited, this was what went through my head immediately.

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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ you bring up a great point. I'm curious to know as well

Maybe because it adds to Alden's mystique of having access to "rare shell"?
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Until the recent shortage, cigar seemed to me like it was the third most common cordovan color. I have and have had more cigar shoes than ravello/whiskey.

At their best, color 8 (dark burgundy / purple&red tint) is darker than cigar (milk chocolate with an olive tint), but the two can overlap from the time to time, similar to how whiskey and ravello can overlap

As far as why it isn't more common, good question, it's probably just a choice by Alden.
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