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If anyone has experience wearing both barrie and Alfred Sargent 7WK would you say they are a similar fit?  Any help greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Karura View Post

I've used the search function and found it difficult to find my answer.

Are natural Chromexcel shoes going to change a lot, in terms of colour and wear? I would like to get a pair of natural Chromexcel PTB to wear with raw denim, but I don't think they will look as good when all browned.

Pictures are nice, I did find a few, but if anyone has aged Chromexcel PTB natural with jeans, then please share biggrin.gif thanks

Natural CXL will definitely get darker. I've seen some pics on here, but not too many. It looks great though, but definitely more casual.
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Rishi Kakar: Would friends on the forum know if the Alden BB snap last used in its cap toe bluchers is more like the aberdeen last or more like the hampton last from Alden. Appreciate your help.

Alden equates it with the Hampton.

I really like the Snap. I prefer the Snap and the Aberdeen over the Hampton. But I have all 3.

Agree.  The fit for me is near perfect and I like the silhouette.

post #56659 of 122416
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Originally Posted by MoneyWellSpent View Post

 

Wading through research on horse usage isn't my idea of fun, so I think we may need to agree to disagree.  I do consider the original article on cordovan that started the whole conversation to be reputable, and I believe that it is saying that cordovan was considered a perfectly normal material for shoes and boots in the early 1900's.  I believe that it is saying that the preferred material for boots in WWI was cordovan, hence the reason that more of them have survived than boots from WWII.  

 

I wasn't saying that everyone in Europe had one or more horses and that they were necessary for daily life in the 1930's.  Looking back at the original wording, I can see how that may have been perceived as what I was saying.  What I did say (or mean to say) was that resources for shell were drying up by the 1930's.  When I said that owning a horse or two was normal, I was referring to the time of WWI, which is when we originally debated on whether it was realistic to think that very many soldiers could be outfitted with cordovan boots.  I stand by the reasonable estimation that before the 1920's this is entirely plausible and even probable.

 

As I said, wading through horse research isn't my favorite past time, but since I do enjoy history, here are a few closing thoughts:

 

The life expectancy of a domesticated horse is 25-30 years.  If an article such as this: http://www.uctc.net/access/30/Access%2030%20-%2002%20-%20Horse%20Power.pdf which shows the dire situation of horse pollution and horse related accidents in cities at the turn of the century are as bad as they sound, then it is perfectly reasonable to assume that horses were still rather abundant by WWI.  This short article is actually an entertaining read, by the way.

 

Another couple of interesting stats I came across:

 

"By 1920, only 3% of farmers in Oklahoma had obtained tractors."

 

"Agricultural historian R. Douglas Hurt asserts that only 30% of American farmers owned a tractor in 1945 and that tractors did not outnumber draft animals until 1955."

 

Horse meat was so prevalent in the 1920's US that horse slaughter houses started pet food companies as a means to dispose of the meat, and horse meat remained a major ingredient in dog foods through the 1940's.  

 

Reference: http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/A/AG005.html

I'm going to be honest...debating whether WW1 and WW2 soldiers did or did not wear shell cordovan boots and how many horses were individually owned is a load of horse shit.  I support my position by determining how many horses were alive, how much they ate each day, and the rate at which they crapped. I do find it interesting how many soldiers died to defend the freedom of the world, and I'm sure many can debate that too.  MoneyWellSpent I understand your position, and RTP you too.  But can we focus on Alden shoes, on this forum?

 

See Ya,

Steve

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I'm going to be honest...debating whether WW1 and WW2 soldiers did or did not wear shell cordovan boots and how many horses were individually owned is a load of horse shit.  I support my position by determining how many horses were alive, how much they ate each day, and the rate at which they crapped. I do find it interesting how many soldiers died to defend the freedom of the world, and I'm sure many can debate that too.  MoneyWellSpent I understand your position, and RTP you too.  But can we focus on Alden shoes, on this forum?

 

See Ya,

Steve

 

Calm thyself....

 

 

Calm now?

 

 

Ok, now use the scroll bar or the scroll wheel on your mouse to get to the next post that you care to read.  All conversations pass with time.  Everything will be ok.  Pictures of Alden shoes will inevitably appear soon as they always do.  

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Because its 100% you mean?

Yes, as long as the net feedback is over 10, I'm fine with taking the risk if the percentage is 100%. If the net is over 100, then my percentage threshold falls to between 95-98%.
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Originally Posted by totalair1 View Post

I'm going to be honest...debating whether WW1 and WW2 soldiers did or did not wear shell cordovan boots and how many horses were individually owned is a load of horse shit.  I support my position by determining how many horses were alive, how much they ate each day, and the rate at which they crapped. I do find it interesting how many soldiers died to defend the freedom of the world, and I'm sure many can debate that too.  MoneyWellSpent I understand your position, and RTP you too.  But can we focus on Alden shoes, on this forum?

 

See Ya,

Steve

Abso-freakin-lutely!  This horse is dead and beaten into the ground.  As I said in my last post, apologies for straying.  I will graciously give my good friend Money WS the last word, again...

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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post

whiskey sw




Nice shine on your wonderful whiskey short wings MrDV.
Edited by BeSpiffington - 8/8/13 at 8:44am
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whiskey sw

 


Ah, finally a beautiful pair of MrDV shells that I also own!  The tremont last doesn't seem to be well-liked on this thread.  I do enjoy mine though.  Wear in great health my friend!

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Originally Posted by Karura View Post

I've used the search function and found it difficult to find my answer.

Are natural Chromexcel shoes going to change a lot, in terms of colour and wear? I would like to get a pair of natural Chromexcel PTB to wear with raw denim, but I don't think they will look as good when all browned.

Pictures are nice, I did find a few, but if anyone has aged Chromexcel PTB natural with jeans, then please share biggrin.gif thanks

These two are my 2 year old Natrual CXL Indy's



These are Natrual CXL PTB right out of the box, they are much darker now with a subtle shine. I will get some more current pics up soon.
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Originally Posted by totalair1 View Post

I'm going to be honest...debating whether WW1 and WW2 soldiers did or did not wear shell cordovan boots and how many horses were individually owned is a load of horse shit.  I support my position by determining how many horses were alive, how much they ate each day, and the rate at which they crapped. I do find it interesting how many soldiers died to defend the freedom of the world, and I'm sure many can debate that too.  MoneyWellSpent I understand your position, and RTP you too.  But can we focus on Alden shoes, on this forum?

 

See Ya,

Steve

 

Calm thyself....

 

 

Calm now?

 

 

Ok, now use the scroll bar or the scroll wheel on your mouse to get to the next post that you care to read.  All conversations pass with time.  Everything will be ok.  Pictures of Alden shoes will inevitably appear soon as they always do.  

My friend, did you not chastise Beatlegeuse and myself couple of days ago for this exact same advice when you grew frustrated over the issue of straight tips and cap toes?? nod[1].gif  I believe you demanded some "courtesy."

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Abso-freakin-lutely!  This horse is dead and beaten into the ground.  As I said in my last post, apologies for straying.  I will graciously give my good friend Money WS the last word, again...

 

Asserting that I am simply seeking the last word, and that you are giving it to me "with grace" shows that you are missing the entire point.  I'm not that petty.  References that support one's position in a discussion are perfectly normal and acceptable to use.  When the data supports one's position, which is presented, and then the opposer seeks to close with a magnanimous comment, it says a lot.  It also puts one person at a disadvantaged position of whether they should respond at the expense of proving the point of the one who claims that a last word is being sought, even it if isn't.    I'm glad I'm your good friend in spite of it though.  

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Nice stuff man; they look killer! Are they from Lost and Found? I wanted to cop a pair but they are too similar to my CXL chukka...at least in my girlfriend's eyes happy.gif

edit: Decided to pull the chute on the shell PTBs?

 

 

Thanks brother.

Yeah, I bought them there.  I was thinking about the shell PTB's but went with these for now.  

Next up, #8 Gunboats... need them.  Figure I'd go with a classic for my first shell.  Won't be for a while though.

 

BTW, what do you use on your CXL chukka's, natural cream or a coloured cream?

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Originally Posted by sazon View Post

classy canuck : love the ensemble. ptb's looking great.

 

 

Thank you.

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Thanks brother.
Yeah, I bought them there.  I was thinking about the shell PTB's but went with these for now.  
Next up, #8 Gunboats... need them.  Figure I'd go with a classic for my first shell.  Won't be for a while though.

BTW, what do you use on your CXL chukka's, natural cream or a coloured cream?

Venetian Shoe Cream works the best.
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