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PSA those with big dogs & ~$300

 

final sale size 12D Barrie Saddle reduced to $429.99 +30% more with "30MORE"

 

http://needsupply.com/mens/brands/alden/sheppard-street-saddle.html

 

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Originally Posted by BeSpiffington View Post

Your styling like a star in those blue suede shoes MrDV. Great combo.
Thank you for the kind words be.
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Originally Posted by mcarthur View Post

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nephew,
looking good, wear in good health
Thanks uncle.

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Originally Posted by Michigan Planner View Post

I love these! Every time I see them I immediately want to put my navy shortwings up for sale and get a pair of these instead.
Exactly what happened to me. I bought ls' blue suede sw a couple of months before leffot released these. I find the lw are more casual and I wear them more than the sw. I sold the sw and never looked back.
post #56388 of 122416
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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post


I know 7ftg has already offered 8.5c as a possibility. Of course, he is a wise and gracious sage on this forum.

I just wanted to note that, along with the 8.5c, the 8.5D may be worth considering. I, too, am an 8.5d Barrie and 9d grant. When I bought my cigar lhs from AofDC, I decided to go grant minus one width and ended up with 9c. In the end, the shoe kind of fits, but if I could turn the clock back, I'd have gotten the 8.5d. The c width has ended up feeling a bit tight in the vamp for me. It may end up loosening a bit more, as I'm only about 9 or 10 wearings in. I'd prefer to see you not go through a tightness width-wise. I'm not worried length wise for you, as you already wear an 8.5 Barrie and Kathy at DC recommends going with your Barrie size for Van shoes.

Not contradicting 7, just saying your mileage may vary.

Best of luck with whichever size you choose!!

Doc, 

 

Sorry if I steered you wrong back when you bought them by suggesting the C.  Did you ever try on a pair in D?  I wonder if the tightness would still be an issue?  Or if you would experience heel slip at that width.  Maybe the tightness will subside as your foot creates an impression in the the corkbed?

 

Have posted this before, but once this thread loosens, vamp tightness is no longer a problem for me on my 3 pairs.

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post #56389 of 122416
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Originally Posted by dusttruffle View Post

PSA those with big dogs & ~$300

final sale size 12D Barrie Saddle reduced to $429.99 +30% more with "30MORE"

http://needsupply.com/mens/brands/alden/sheppard-street-saddle.html



These are great, but I thought they ran huge (probably due to them being CXL). Rather than sizing down by 1/2, I had to go a full size to get a good fit.
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Originally Posted by aldenwear View Post

It is not that hard.  You slowly move the flame toward the edge of the thread.  It will ignite - not a burning flame, more like a  glow -- before the flame touches it:  the heat will light the thread.  The thread will burn towards the shoe slowly enough that you can watch it move toward the shoe and when the glow gets close to the shoe, extinguish it.  Small threads can be difficult to cut, and I have found this to be foolproof.

Do you recommend to do this with something like a cigarette lighter or a candle?

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Originally Posted by mcarthur View Post


nephew,
I have not own a black ptb since my rotc days

Uncle I saw this picture and was reminded of you. Uncle Mac in his immaculately polished black PTBs. To the ROTC days then!

 

post #56392 of 122416
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Originally Posted by ReppTiePrepster View Post


In my experience they (C&J for RL) size similarly to the Alden Tassel moc

I'll take either RTP. I'll take either.......
post #56393 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Notreknip View Post

Hey guys - regarding sizing for LHS... (Which is impossible to search for by the way.)

Barrie Boots = 8.5D (pretty perfect)
Barrie Shoes = 8.5D (slightly loose in heel)
Plaza Boots = 9D (oddly, maybe slightly roomy overall)

LHS = ?? (I'm thinking 8.5C especially considering I'd like to wear them sockless much of the time)

Sadly, I don't really have the option of trying any on, so your advice would be appreciated even though I know sizing is extra difficult for loafers.

My sizing sounds similar to yours. I purchased an 8.5c and 8.5d unlined LHS from BB and found the D width to be a much better fit. The C's were just too narrow. Unfortunately, I ended up returning both as the D's I received were previously worn and creased pretty bad, but it was at least good experience sizing wise. Best of luck. I hope to have these in #8 soon.
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My sizing sounds similar to yours. I purchased an 8.5c and 8.5d unlined LHS from BB and found the D width to be a much better fit. The C's were just too narrow. Unfortunately, I ended up returning both as the D's I received were previously worn and creased pretty bad, but it was at least good experience sizing wise. Best of luck. I hope to have these in #8 soon.

It has been the experience of some, including myself, that the unlined LHS fits more snug than the same size in a lined LHS.

If you have a chance to try on a lined LHS, give a C width a chance and it might just fit .....
post #56395 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Beatlegeuse View Post


I'm not sure why you would be surprised or frustrated that there was confusion around this. You said yourself that Alden uses their own terminology despite what the majority of other high quality shoe manufacturers use. Adding to that, places like TSM use different descriptions than Alden does for many of their straight-tips/cap toes. I think it's pretty obvious that would confuse some people. Perhaps a better question may have been, why does Alden use the term straight tip when everyone else uses cap toe?

I wrote the original question so I thank you for providing some detail surrounding the naming conventions, but to actually get frustrated that a discussion was sparked by my question seems rather strange.

 

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I guess the discrepancy arises from the fact that I had been using information from the Alden SF and Madison websites (which I'm guessing you have reviewed) as well as conversations with Kathy at Alden DC.  These Alden stores use the phrases cap toe and straight tip in the fashion that SFTG and I described it. The confusion comes from the apparent inconsistency in Alden's use of the terms. In any case, a discussion like this, on this particular thread should not be that big a deal.  If our elementary questions and answers are bothersome/frustrating to you, you may just want to ignore.  I do however thank you, my friend, for enlightening us with your knowledge.  I hope you enjoy your weekend...

 

Guys, try to calm down.  Frustrated is not a four letter word and I don't understand why I'm not allowed to get bothered by how long it has taken to get to the bottom of this topic.  I'll point out that my original post expressed surprise by the confusion, but I didn't express frustration until after my original post only brought on more arguing.  As I said originally, some of Alden's retailers are known to use the term Cap Toe.  Alden Madison Avenue is another example, but they are privately owned and therefore they are using their own terms.  I'm not saying that someone can't get confused.  I'm saying that it is frustrating that it has taken such a long conversation, even after being shown what Alden calls their shoes, to get everyone to understand that this is a debate over semantics.  You guys are apparently frustrated with me right now, and I'm not offended by your frustration.  Perhaps extend me the same courtesy.  I'm not passively aggressively saying to take your conversation elsewhere either.  Again, perhaps extend me the same courtesy. 

 

 

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RTP: I guess the discrepancy arises from the fact that I had been using information from the Alden SF and Madison websites (which I'm guessing you have reviewed) as well as conversations with Kathy at Alden DC. These Alden stores use the phrases cap toe and straight tip in the fashion that SFTG and I described it. The confusion comes from the apparent inconsistency in Alden's use of the terms. In any case, a discussion like this, on this particular thread should not be that big a deal. If our elementary questions and answers are bothersome/frustrating to you, you may just want to ignore. I do however thank you, my friend, for enlightening us with your knowledge. I hope you enjoy your weekend...

All I will add here is that I have found that using my descriptions (noted a few pages back) is well received by various Alden retailers and causes virtually no confusion. I don't claim to have the last word on this subject, and if another describes the shoes differently, that is fine. A good weekend to all. fistbump.gif

 

I think that just proves my point and shows why it is simply semantics.  These retailers are fully aware of the fact that these are the same shoes.  I have no problem with people calling them something different either, as I originally said.  It is the confusion that has surprised me, and the annoyed response from when I stated that it is simply semantics.  Nothing more, nothing less. 

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Originally Posted by kwhitelaw View Post

^^^^ have a pair of the jcrew crepe sole #8 LWB that I have been meaning to send off for leather soles to B Nelson. havent even worn them out the house once sadly

I know how you feel. I assumed that a crepe soled suede chukka would be more comfortable than the waterloc/flexwelt version. I'm already considering having Nick at B. Nelson replace the crepe with a waterloc/flexwelt. Note, they buy their waterloc/flexwelt soles from the same source as Alden. I don't find the crepe uncomfortable but its certainly not any more comfortable than flexwelt. I also find them to be so much heavier.
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Doc, 

Sorry if I steered you wrong back when you bought them by suggesting the C.  Did you ever try on a pair in D?  I wonder if the tightness would still be an issue?  Or if you would experience heel slip at that width.  Maybe the tightness will subside as your foot creates an impression in the the corkbed?

Have posted this before, but once this thread loosens, vamp tightness is no longer a problem for me on my 3 pairs.
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Hi Bakes
First of all, thank you for recalling our exchange about the lhs, which occurred many moons ago. No apology necessary; you were not to blame. If anything, you've only been a kind mentor as I've been learning to navigate the sometimes perplexing world o Alden sizing.

The 9c was not a total train wreck. I only notice the vamp tightness nowadays if I've walked quite a bit during a long day. There is now minimal heel slippage following the cork settling. The shoes remain wearable for sure. I was only saying that I think the 8.5d would have been more ideal. Not having gone with the 8.5 was completely due to my high grade Alden fever at the time (lhs was maybe my 4th or 5th shoe and possibly my first shell; I'm now 17 pairs in thanks to you enablers smile.gif I was impulsive and should have taken Kathy up on her gracious offer to ship other sizes to me to confirm the best fit.

Bakes, you were one of the gurus who counseled me to slow down and treat this as a marathon. I didn't get it at first, but now I'm so glad I listen to your sage advice as I no longer experience pains of regret post purchase (eg, I made the mistake of buying not 1 but 2 pairs of AE Larchmonts, ack!)

And thanks for the info about that thread on the lhs!
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Originally Posted by Rishi Kakar View Post

Do you recommend to do this with something like a cigarette lighter or a candle?

Match or lighter. You don't need much heat to get the job done.
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Originally Posted by aldenwear View Post

Match or lighter. You don't need much heat to get the job done.

Thank you my friend
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Originally Posted by Rishi Kakar View Post

Do you recommend to do this with something like a cigarette lighter or a candle?

I would avoid using a candle, unless you want your shoes covered in molten wax.
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