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post #56191 of 122416
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I believe the straight tip is simply a type of cap previously, hence the listing of Alden's straight tips under TSM's Cap toe category.  Straight tips are probably a simple cap line without broguing.

[/quote]RTP, your definition seems to me as the obvious answer, though I am withholding my decision pending an expert opinion from our esteemed Uncle.
post #56192 of 122416
I'm just going to call them all captoes smile.gif
post #56193 of 122416
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I'm just going to call them all captoes smile.gif
Consensus?
post #56194 of 122416
As long as we're into the categorization of shoe types...
How about where there is no actual cap and there's just a line or two of stitching across the toe?
I think those are usually referred to as straight tips as well.

post #56195 of 122416

I've been going on the assumption that they are all variations on a cap toe

post #56196 of 122416
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As long as we're into the categorization of shoe types...
How about where there is no actual cap and there's just a line or two of stitching across the toe?
I think those are usually referred to as straight tips as well.

Nice boots. Are they Alden? I know, stupid question.
post #56197 of 122416
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[quote name="ReppTiePrepster" url="/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/56220#post_
I believe the straight tip is simply a type of cap previously, hence the listing of Alden's straight tips under TSM's Cap toe category.  Straight tips are probably a simple cap line without broguing.
RTP, your definition seems to me as the obvious answer, though I am withholding my decision pending an expert opinion from our esteemed Uncle.[/quote]

I am in agreement with rtp that the general classification of cap toe includes the subdivision such as cap toe bal, medallion cap toe, perforated cap toe, straight tip blucher, cap toe bal etc
also, I am not the oracle of delphi
post #56198 of 122416
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Has anyone ordered the cap-toe boot from TSM lately?  Ordered the 4060 last night in #8 and just got a cancellation saying the style is being discontinued and they were out of stock in my size.  Is this a canned response for the  online inventory wasn't updated?

Ordered this one at the beginning of June and had no problems. If Alden is discontinuing the captoe on the grant last you can always get the one from J.Crew on the barrie. What size were you attempting to get?
post #56199 of 122416
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This may be a stupid question, but is there any difference between a straight tip and a captoe? I've seen the term used interchangeably several times. Unless you're referring to a punched captoe or something with a medallion, it seems like a straight tip and a captoe are the same thing.

I may be wrong, but I think straight tip refers to captoe blucher (open lacing) and captoe when used alone typically refers to a captoe balmoral (closed lacing).  

post #56200 of 122416
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

As long as we're into the categorization of shoe types...
How about where there is no actual cap and there's just a line or two of stitching across the toe?
I think those are usually referred to as straight tips as well.
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Nice boots. Are they Alden? I know, stupid question.

Actually they're Paul Smith.
post #56201 of 122416
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RTP, your definition seems to me as the obvious answer, though I am withholding my decision pending an expert opinion from our esteemed Uncle.

I am "not" the oracle of delphi[/quote]Oh great one. Sooth sayer. Wizard. Knower of all things Alden. Will my son wear the same Barrie size as I your humble servant?
post #56202 of 122416

maybe straight tip is where there is a just a line/perforation across the toe of the shoe.

and captoe is where there is actual leather capping the end.

post #56203 of 122416
I think we need to put together a Venn Diagram because a shoe/boot could theoretically be a straight-tip medallion captoe, any single one of those, or any combination of two.

It could be captoed and medallioned but not straight-tipped.
It could be straight-tipped and captoed but not medallioned.
It could be straight-tipped and medallioned but not captoed.

If I were more ambitious, I would put together the diagram and find examples of each possibility.
post #56204 of 122416
Then we can tackle the question as to why Norwegian Split Toes aren't actually split at the toe.
And why v-tips are called that.
post #56205 of 122416
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I may be wrong, but I think straight tip refers to captoe blucher (open lacing) and captoe when used alone typically refers to a captoe balmoral (closed lacing).  


Nope.  Alden has a straight tip bal...

http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-mens-straight-tip-bal-calfskin-dark-brown/pvc-ald-mxsdlc-920_ald_m_straight_tip_bal_calfskin.html

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