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post #52006 of 122416
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Anyone ordered shell from TSM lately?

If so, did you receive the no "creased vamps and marked outsoles" return policy card? The card even has example pictures.

For some this is welcome news. For others, the exact opposite. Definitely a change in policy for TSM though.

I received this recently from them even on a pair of Indy's in CXL I was trying. I certainly can understand it on their end though. Its hard to really fault them for this. They already have the best shipping poilicy and the largest selection of inventory around. I know on more than one occassion I ordered shoes from them that I did not intend to keep simply so I would know my correct sizing. 

post #52007 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

 

 

Kind of ridiculous how all of the retailers keep saying that there will be no Ravello for the foreseeable future, and a few months later it starts raining Ravello.

 

I'm not complaining and I am glad to hear that it is popping up occasionally.  I'm sure its not the retailers fault, they are probably just relaying what they are told by Alden, but the pattern is getting kind of old.

maybe it was a ploy to get more people interested in their #8 and black offerings.......colgate.gif

post #52008 of 122416
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

I received this recently from them even on a pair of Indy's in CXL I was trying. I certainly can understand it on their end though. Its hard to really fault them for this. They already have the best shipping poilicy and the largest selection of inventory around. I know on more than one occassion I ordered shoes from them that I did not intend to keep simply so I would know my correct sizing. 

Just to be clear, for the record, I do not fault them for this.
post #52009 of 122416
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


Mine arrived about 30 minutes ago. I would guess it is a very very recent policy.

what size did you get? hopefully not the ones I returned 

post #52010 of 122416
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Originally Posted by mcarthur View Post

#8 nst saddle
argyles otc

A very unique and complimentary makeup Uncle. Quite nice in fact.
post #52011 of 122416
In my few years of following Alden, "base models" in rare cordovan like PTBs, longwings, and chukkas seem to show up pretty regularly at many of the Alden retailers, at least once a year. As long as I have known them the guys at Alden NYC have complained about cordovan shortages... What does seem to be impacted are the more custom orders for boots and such in rare colors.
post #52012 of 122416
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Originally Posted by shaunw View Post

maybe it was a ploy to get more people interested in their #8 and black offerings.......colgate.gif

We can only hope that's partially true.  The Alden DC guys told me that Alden is moving away from special colors due to difficulty in doing them.  I would imagine that it's a big problem for Alden if Horween can't deliver shell, specially in rare colors.  i see this is a real problem for Alden or any other manufacturer.  You take orders, but can't deliver.  Retailers want to wait for the special colors and have in many cases pre-sold orders, and collected payment.  I keep hearing about 2 year and more waits from forum members, and still no firm delivery timeframe.  I think it's FUBAR and I hope it gets better, but I'm not counting on it.  A prime example is both known places getting Ravello this fall are getting 1 pair of 13D at 1 location.  The other 1 pair of 12.5D and no 13.  Both places say very few pair.  They both told me of all kinds other non shell makes ups, and a few in #8 and black.

 

I feel it's possible for rare colors to come back, but I see it as a long wait, at least 12 months or more.  Unless you are already in line for something, and then as already said many have waited over 2 years.  

 

That's why i've spent a ton of dough scooping up anything I can find in my size in Cigar, Ravello, or Whiskey.  I've done well on Cigar, and Whiskey, no Ravello though.

 

In the mean time, good luck and good hunting!

 

See Ya,

Steve

post #52013 of 122416
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Originally Posted by BeSpiffington View Post

A very unique and complimentary makeup Uncle. Quite nice in fact.

nephew,
thank you
post #52014 of 122416
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Originally Posted by totalair1 View Post

We can only hope that's partially true.  The Alden DC guys told me that Alden is moving away from special colors due to difficulty in doing them.  I would imagine that it's a big problem for Alden if Horween can't deliver shell, specially in rare colors.  i see this is a real problem for Alden or any other manufacturer.  You take orders, but can't deliver.  Retailers want to wait for the special colors and have in many cases pre-sold orders, and collected payment.  I keep hearing about 2 year and more waits from forum members, and still no firm delivery timeframe.  I think it's FUBAR and I hope it gets better, but I'm not counting on it.  A prime example is both known places getting Ravello this fall are getting 1 pair of 13D at 1 location.  The other 1 pair of 12.5D and no 13.  Both places say very few pair.  They both told me of all kinds other non shell makes ups, and a few in #8 and black.

I feel it's possible for rare colors to come back, but I see it as a long wait, at least 12 months or more.  Unless you are already in line for something, and then as already said many have waited over 2 years.  

That's why i've spent a ton of dough scooping up anything I can find in my size in Cigar, Ravello, or Whiskey.  I've done well on Cigar, and Whiskey, no Ravello though.

In the mean time, good luck and good hunting!

See Ya,
Steve

But take comfort in this: Color 8 is still the King. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #52015 of 122416
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

But take comfort in this: Color 8 is still the King. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

nephew,
+1 #8 is the shell king
post #52016 of 122416

Indeed it is, all hail #8   worship.gif

post #52017 of 122416
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post

Anyone ordered shell from TSM lately?

If so, did you receive the no "creased vamps and marked outsoles" return policy card? The card even has example pictures.

For some this is welcome news. For others, the exact opposite. Definitely a change in policy for TSM though.

I got that card with my whiskey LHS last week.
I could have sworn they've had that policy for a while though.
post #52018 of 122416
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I got that card with my whiskey LHS last week.
I could have sworn they've had that policy for a while though.

They didn't have it in mid-Feb 2013. Not sure when it was implemented after that ......

Hope the Whiskey LHS worked for you. It is my favorite LHS.
post #52019 of 122416
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Originally Posted by sevenfoldtieguy View Post


But take comfort in this: Color 8 is still the King. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

I agree...but I can't appreciate #8 if I don't have Cigar, Ravello, and Whiskey sitting next to it so I can compare!

 

See Ya,

Steve

post #52020 of 122416
A couple other people have mentioned this here before, but I still think it's weird that other makers are churning out smaller batches of rare cordovan colors on a regular basis. Carmina has been doing this with Epaulet for over a year now with no issues, and with prices that aren't much higher than Alden is charging. I'm starting to wonder if I could get my money back from all my Alden pre-orders, get something from another maker, and have it produced and shipped to me before any of the Alden pre-orders are actually finished.

The fact that the possibility of a 4-6 month wait for Ravello sounds almost too good to be true is kind of ridiculous, considering group MTO's from Carmina rarely take that long from start to finish.
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