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post #45511 of 122416
I was joking about the lobbs, when I saw them I couldn't believe it. I could have 22 pairs of Alden shell or one pair of lobbs? Or perhaps 5 pairs of eg top drawer with 5 pairs of shell Aldens.
post #45512 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Randomore View Post

Want some input from you guys on what you think my first Alden should be. I am having difficulty deciding.

I am leaning towards a boot. But I love the LWB as well. What do you guys think? Is there a versatile shoe that I shouldn't miss right now?

I would go color 8 longwing. I wear jeans most days and it works well with them. You can't go wrong with boots either. Good luck!
post #45513 of 122416
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Originally Posted by amathew View Post

I'm also debating on what I should get as my first pair of Aldens, the Indy boot or the shell indy boot. 

I've read a bit about how shell doesn't breathe well but my main concern is the weight. Is there a significant difference in weight between a shell boot and non-shell boot. I have a small physical disability and don't like wearing heavy boots/shoes because it exacerbates my disability, so I'd like to stay with something "lightweight"

A boot like a color 8 indy on double leather soles will be noticeably heavier than a boot like the 405 on Alden's commando soles (EDIT - the regular Indy boots are pretty heavy due to the cork sole)
post #45514 of 122416
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Originally Posted by amathew View Post

I'm also debating on what I should get as my first pair of Aldens, the Indy boot or the shell indy boot. 

 

I've read a bit about how shell doesn't breathe well but my main concern is the weight. Is there a significant difference in weight between a shell boot and non-shell boot. I have a small physical disability and don't like wearing heavy boots/shoes because it exacerbates my disability, so I'd like to stay with something "lightweight"

If I could go back and do it again I would start with a #8 or cigar cordovan indy boot. Cordovan boots will not be heavier than regular leathers. It may actually be lighter in weight.

post #45515 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

So the LWB only goes with chinos (not trying to be argumentative, just curious about your thinking)

Depending on what look you are trying to achieve, anything from sneakers/work boots to balmoral boots/shoes seem to go with jeans, so I would think LWB would fit in that spectrum. I can understand the idea about LWB with suits (even though I disagree with it)

yeah i think the #8 barrie LWB/WTB looks most at home with casual wool pants (not smooth worsteds) or chinos. too much more casual or dressy than that (such as jeans or a business suit) and it starts to look incongruous. i think it can work with jeans, but it needs to be a pretty dress outfit. super dark jeans, no streaks or fades. no untucked shirts. preferably a sport jacket. i do that look pretty often with my #8 WTB's, but i just feel the same outfit with a less dressy-looking shoe (such as a ravello or suede WTB or a #8 PTB) would look a bit more balanced.

for background, i haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate seeing dudes wear jeans with dressy looking shoes such as black balmorals. jeans are the most workwear of pants that men can wear (aside from paint-stained overalls) so to me, the shoes worn with jeans shouldn't look dressy. like how you would never wear a tuxedo jacket with floral-print swim tunks. everything has to be from the same level of dressiness.
post #45516 of 122416
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Originally Posted by sazon View Post

Gentlemen - Thank you for the compliments on the #4 Captoes. I feel very lucky having gotten these as they were made in an extremely small batch, after initially having been cancelled. The Shoe Mart was the seller.

Part of me wants to keep these pristine and not wear them much due to their scarcity but the other part of me loves the shade and can't help but wanting to wear them often.

Do you like the #4 captoe better than the #4 wingtip boot?
post #45517 of 122416
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Originally Posted by sazon View Post

Gentlemen - Thank you for the compliments on the #4 Captoes. I feel very lucky having gotten these as they were made in an extremely small batch, after initially having been cancelled. The Shoe Mart was the seller.

Part of me wants to keep these pristine and not wear them much due to their scarcity but the other part of me loves the shade and can't help but wanting to wear them often.

Good god, brother—wear them!  Patina trumps pristine every time.  

post #45518 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Alpina View Post

Good god, brother—wear them!  Patina trumps pristine every time.  

+1 I understand your desire to maintain them however (this is easy to say as I'm not the owner). Please share them with the world. Those boots were meant to shine brilliantly in this cold world, if it's bit much I apologize lol.
post #45519 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

Looking good in your PGH LHS, Frank!

Thanks, you've had something of corner on the LHS photos recently. And PGH is right. Maybe I should start referring to them that way. Pretend they are some super rare #8 LHS: Only available in PGH!
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Originally Posted by amathew View Post

I'm also debating on what I should get as my first pair of Aldens, the Indy boot or the shell indy boot. 

I've read a bit about how shell doesn't breathe well but my main concern is the weight. Is there a significant difference in weight between a shell boot and non-shell boot. I have a small physical disability and don't like wearing heavy boots/shoes because it exacerbates my disability, so I'd like to stay with something "lightweight"

I do think the shell Indy will be heavier, though that is because of the double leather sole, not the shell cordovan itself IMO. Something with a single leather sole would be good for less weight, though I don't think you'll find a boot that way (other than on the Modified last, which is impossible or very expensive to find in shell). Single leather sole shoe makeups are more formal in general. The exception that comes to mind immediately is the #8 unlined LHS from Brooks Brothers.
post #45520 of 122416
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Originally Posted by jkater1 View Post

Do you like the #4 captoe better than the #4 wingtip boot?

Yes, Captoes win out.
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Originally Posted by Alpina View Post

Good god, brother—wear them!  Patina trumps pristine every time.  

Excellent point!
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

+1 I understand your desire to maintain them however (this is easy to say as I'm not the owner). Please share them with the world. Those boots were meant to shine brilliantly in this cold world, if it's bit much I apologize lol.

Cold, cruel world, meet my #4 Captoes. Can't we all just get along and wear better shoes?
Edited by sazon - 3/13/13 at 11:26am
post #45521 of 122416

She's too smart for me.

 

The Ravello's gotta go for an actual price.

 

Anybody have a new 8.5. Whiskey LWB Barrie w/ leather soul?

 

Like somebody who posted yesterday, I've found that all of my Barrie Boots fit me perfectly in a 9, but my LWB in Barrie fit much better in an 8.5.. I've made some adjustments to many, but am just going straight 8.5 in Barrie going forward.

 

Alden, as a company, is just getting arrogant and dictatorial. Cordovan shortage has somehow made them able to adjust the threshold on what becomes a second as opposed to a first quality shoe.

 

While I'm venting, I ordered a Whiskey LWB in 9D from Alden SF. They would have completed the so called LWB rainbow. Anyway, I took them out of the box and they had the deepest scratch in the right vamp and I could tell that I was the first person who had received this pair and I pride myself iin my ability to take out even deep scratched this wasn't going anywhere.

 

I called Alden Massachussetts and spoke to them and they said that they'd get a new pair out to the San Fran store. A promise which seemed illusory. The Alden (MA) people, or probably better to say person, said that it must have slipped by their QC. Anyway, I call Alden San Fran to tell them this and they tell me, to make it simple, "NO." They then told me that those shoes are going back into inventory and will be sold to another consumer. This, after they admitted to having dried to take the scratch out with no luck. The shoes with tax were around $795. I called them and asked them if they could call me if an 8.5 got returned in light of this. I had been on the wait list for the scratched shoe, blah, blah, yadda, yadda. They told me that I would get the first 8.5 returned.

 

So yesterday, I look on the website and an 8.5 has been returned. I call the store to inquire only to be told, we're so sorry, but we sold it. I didn't give them a hard time, because it would have served no purpose. The damage was done.

 

anyway, the same week I received a #8 Brixton Boot from Epaulet with one of those upper bubbles where the lining isn't flush to the shell on the upper and so they get a bubble, which in time becomes either awful creasing or torn seams.

 

i hate to start too many sentences with "anyway", 

 

Anyway, Alden's quality, as a collector with 21 pairs of shell, has gone to shit. What used to be seconds get sent to retailers and even resold by Aldem themselves after a clear defect is pointed out. Epaulet excused it as Alden being Alden and Alden SF said, "those shells are so rare that people will still pay full retail for them, so they're going back on the shelves."

 

It appears that these days, defects need to be real botched shoes, shells are much darker with imperfections now appearing in black and # 8. It's disheartening. I find that I've probably paid an extra $500 this year just on returned shipping. 

 

At the same time, the Wolverine 744 that I alerted the thread to because they were on sale on ebay in all sizes for $532 from $750 arrived and they were so beautiful and well crafted. Nowadays, most Alden boots have that place with the tongue connects to the boot and it looks like it's either unfinished or poorly made ( you can see it on all the J. Crew #8 PCT Boot as the as the Black PCT shell boot from the Molded Shoe in NYC).

 

I thought that I'd vent. On a different note, I do have a Ravello Chukka an the J. Crew Ravello LWB in 9D and I got caught so, unless these super bids materialize, they'll be a couple great shoes in the market place.

 

if you have any 8.5 Barrie LWB in Whiskey or Ravello or at boots in 9D, I'd be open for a trade if they're new like mine. Mine haven't even been tried on as you guys pointed out.

 

we might have to take action. Maybe a salt march to the Alden factory:)

post #45522 of 122416

Wow that was long.....Sorry!

post #45523 of 122416
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Originally Posted by docalden2013 View Post

Follow up on PSA: spoke to Michael, who informed me there are also white bucks with red sole also 40%off. Model 96814. $475 before disc. Is that a real Alden? I feel like I never see white ones other than the JCrew makeup.

This is actually tempting with spring around the corner (actually feels like summer is already here in FL today). Which last are these on?
post #45524 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Bakes11771 View Post

If they are just a little tight, I would stick with them.  If they are a lot tight, abort.  My pairs have been a little snug at first.  Sometimes a stitch or two where the strap perpendiculates the side of the shoe breaks, and it solves the problem.  Also, your foot will sink a little in to the cork bed, and that will help.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll continue wearing them on carpet. I have a narrower heel and it is very loose in the larger lasts if I size down to take care of the slight difference.
post #45525 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Gcbrown3 View Post

She's too smart for me.

 

The Ravello's gotta go for an actual price.

 

Anybody have a new 8.5. Whiskey LWB Barrie w/ leather soul?

 

Like somebody who posted yesterday, I've found that all of my Barrie Boots fit me perfectly in a 9, but my LWB in Barrie fit much better in an 8.5.. I've made some adjustments to many, but am just going straight 8.5 in Barrie going forward.

 

Alden, as a company, is just getting arrogant and dictatorial. Cordovan shortage has somehow made them able to adjust the threshold on what becomes a second as opposed to a first quality shoe.

 

While I'm venting, I ordered a Whiskey LWB in 9D from Alden SF. They would have completed the so called LWB rainbow. Anyway, I took them out of the box and they had the deepest scratch in the right vamp and I could tell that I was the first person who had received this pair and I pride myself iin my ability to take out even deep scratched this wasn't going anywhere.

 

I called Alden Massachussetts and spoke to them and they said that they'd get a new pair out to the San Fran store. A promise which seemed illusory. The Alden (MA) people, or probably better to say person, said that it must have slipped by their QC. Anyway, I call Alden San Fran to tell them this and they tell me, to make it simple, "NO." They then told me that those shoes are going back into inventory and will be sold to another consumer. This, after they admitted to having dried to take the scratch out with no luck. The shoes with tax were around $795. I called them and asked them if they could call me if an 8.5 got returned in light of this. I had been on the wait list for the scratched shoe, blah, blah, yadda, yadda. They told me that I would get the first 8.5 returned.

 

So yesterday, I look on the website and an 8.5 has been returned. I call the store to inquire only to be told, we're so sorry, but we sold it. I didn't give them a hard time, because it would have served no purpose. The damage was done.

 

anyway, the same week I received a #8 Brixton Boot from Epaulet with one of those upper bubbles where the lining isn't flush to the shell on the upper and so they get a bubble, which in time becomes either awful creasing or torn seams.

 

i hate to start too many sentences with "anyway", 

 

Anyway, Alden's quality, as a collector with 21 pairs of shell, has gone to shit. What used to be seconds get sent to retailers and even resold by Aldem themselves after a clear defect is pointed out. Epaulet excused it as Alden being Alden and Alden SF said, "those shells are so rare that people will still pay full retail for them, so they're going back on the shelves."

 

It appears that these days, defects need to be real botched shoes, shells are much darker with imperfections now appearing in black and # 8. It's disheartening. I find that I've probably paid an extra $500 this year just on returned shipping. 

 

At the same time, the Wolverine 744 that I alerted the thread to because they were on sale on ebay in all sizes for $532 from $750 arrived and they were so beautiful and well crafted. Nowadays, most Alden boots have that place with the tongue connects to the boot and it looks like it's either unfinished or poorly made ( you can see it on all the J. Crew #8 PCT Boot as the as the Black PCT shell boot from the Molded Shoe in NYC).

 

I thought that I'd vent. On a different note, I do have a Ravello Chukka an the J. Crew Ravello LWB in 9D and I got caught so, unless these super bids materialize, they'll be a couple great shoes in the market place.

 

if you have any 8.5 Barrie LWB in Whiskey or Ravello or at boots in 9D, I'd be open for a trade if they're new like mine. Mine haven't even been tried on as you guys pointed out.

 

we might have to take action. Maybe a salt march to the Alden factory:)

I completely agree with you. I kept the Ravello chukkas I ordered because I felt they are quite tough to get and I could live the mark on them, but I do not feel that it should have existed for a $700 shoe

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