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post #32206 of 122416
Why in hell are we talking about Ralph Lauren here?

Made in China, anyone?
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Why in hell are we talking about Ralph Lauren here?
Made in China, anyone?

 

 

Nope. The RL cordovan shoes we are talking about are made by Crockett and Jones in England, using Horween (USA) Shell Cordovan.

 

And we're talking about them because they, for the most part, are a good comparison to Aldens in terms of quality and fit and finish. 

post #32208 of 122416
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Originally Posted by HorseHide View Post

The RL is more narrow than the Barrie (toe box still has plenty of room). Not sure how much of this comes from the general stiffness of the shoe - these are real tanks and make the Aldens feel like sneakers out of the box.

Amazing shoes, really. I'm probably going to buy a pair of the PTB (at full retail which pisses me off) based on what I've seen with these shortwings. Now I have to decide which RL store I should go (based on the indifference/rudeness of the sales associates at the SF store, the Michigan Ave store and the Madison Ave store, NY wins for the least indifferent sales people icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif).
Did you size down from normal for the RL Shortwings?  I have found the RL PTB to be slightly shorter and slightly narrower.  Definitely is built of a different last.  My advice is to make sure you try on the PTB first and not just go off the Shortwing sizing alone.

Pretty sure the RL wingtip and PTB are on the same 325 last.
http://www.styleforum.net/t/268417/crockett-jones-for-ralph-lauren-cordovan-marlow-darlton-gifford-garran-lindrick-mccallum-rhett/1065#post_5341986
I've got both and they feel the same to me.

Robert (sf user dastig) robert.schoettker@ralphlauren.com has been pretty helpful although I've only dealt with him on the phone and via email..
He's at the Michigan Ave store. He's an RRL specialist but he's helped me with non RRL stuff.
post #32209 of 122416
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Originally Posted by 0waterbouys View Post

So recently I had a pair of Whiskey Indy's develop a really bizarre blemish. To start, I'd like to point out that the beginnings of the blemish were there from the start and was not due to scuffing or wear. It looked like a patch of tiny wrinkles and lines in one spot on the side of the boot. Over about a period of 2 weeks after regular brushing/mac method I noticed that the spot had grown and now was turning a very dark brownish burgundy. I tried my hardest to brush it out but it had no effect on it. It was a quite large spot about the size of a quarter right on the side of the boot.


I sent it back to Alden DC who in turn sent it back to the factory for repair/work. It was returned to me in no different condition and when I contacted Kathy at Alden DC about it I was told there was nothing I could do. Obviously they weren't going to refund the boot and I was told it was just a part of the inconsistencies of shell cordovan. I doubt anyone on Ebay or B&S would want them as the spot is certainly noticeable so I am stuck $730 in the hole. I guess I just have to live with it. Sorry if this a boo-hoo story or what have you it just feels nice to vent a bit. I'm probably going to turn them into my go to hiking boots and wear/distress the hell out of them.

TL;DR: I hope shell cordovan is nice to hike in.

i'd still like to see a picture; i have a similar issue.
i would suggest demanding the shoe be remade by the factory. major inconsistencies of the shell cordovan such as you describe should be caught be qc and sent to shoe mart as seconds.
post #32210 of 122416
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Originally Posted by BootSpell View Post

ubiquiti, thanks for sharing.  I see that you're getting rid of them.  Is it because the Barrie last doesn't work for you?

You're welcome.

The Barrie last does work for me but I am a 6.5 D. I am getting rid of them because not only are they slightly big, but I like - but not love them.

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J.Crew's navy suede longwings on a micro sole and natural CXL longwings on a crepe sole are up on their website.

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Snuff suede chukka on a crepe sole, too.

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My Leffot Cigar Indys - so far enjoying the hell out of them.

1000

post #32214 of 122416
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Originally Posted by dsmivtr View Post

Excellent NST boots!

nephew,
thank you
post #32215 of 122416
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post


Nope. The RL cordovan shoes we are talking about are made by Crockett and Jones in England, using Horween (USA) Shell Cordovan.

And we're talking about them because they, for the most part, are a good comparison to Aldens in terms of quality and fit and finish. 

I know this. But this is the Alden thread.
post #32216 of 122416
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Another long time lurker here, finally decided to post.
I've pre-ordered the Context Roy boot due February and wanted another boot in the meantime to really wear in as a daily wearer.
I'm pretty picky, and I love Indy's, but I really prefer a plain toe. After seeing some surprisingly great photos of the J.Crew plain toe on here, I decided to pull the trigger; I figured with free in-store returns, it couldn't hurt.

I got the boots in today, and I actually really like them, but between ordering and delivery, I stumbled across the natural CXL plain toe on the Shoe Mart and really like those as well.
Considering I'm getting the Roy in February, should I hold onto the J.Crew boot or return them and pick up the natural CXL PTBoot?
On the upside, I can probably wear the J.Crew pair to work and the calfskin is a nice contrast to the brown CXL the Roy will have. On the other hand, I'm a huge fan of chromexcel, but I've heard mixed things on natural CXL and how it ages and wears.

tl;dr keep J.Crew plain toe or swap out for natural chromexcel plain toe from Shoe Mart

Sorry for the phone photos, just wanted to get this up ASAP so I could get feedback and make a decision. First two are obviously indoor lighting, with the latter two in the driveway after work.


 

 

IMO i'd stick with the j.crew and the roys. I find natural CXL to be a hard color to pair with a lot of outfits...and have it flow.
post #32217 of 122416
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What's the world coming to when a New Yorker brags about the service he gets in Chicago and a Chicagoan brags about the service he gets in New York?
Before we get all carried away here, I still hate the Yankees.

Well, all is still good in the world!

So, Sazon, 103 Yesterday, and I'm in my Brown Chromex Ultimate Jumpers from LS. Granted I was inside at NYHS all day.
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IMO i'd stick with the j.crew and the roys. I find natural CXL to be a hard color to pair with a lot of outfits...and have it flow.

agreed
post #32219 of 122416
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J.Crew's navy suede longwings on a micro sole and natural CXL longwings on a crepe sole are up on their website.

I hope when they post their ravello makeup it has a leather sole. Not a fan of crepe...
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A wonderful cigar model just showed up on Leffot. nod[1].gif
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