or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › ***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos. - Page 2067  

post #30991 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

Since we're talking cordovan, I believe the proper phrase is 'I don't have a horse in this race".

worship.gif
post #30992 of 122416
I get my Saphir from Epaulet
post #30993 of 122416
Hanger Project and Leffot also stock Saphir (though I don't think Leffot stocks the cordovan cream/paste)
post #30994 of 122416
Onthefly, Asuitablewardrobe, + a few other places as well.
post #30995 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post

Does this product have the consistency of a cream or a wax?

Cream - the consistency is akin to many calf shoe creams.
post #30996 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by terradilavoro View Post

Gentlemen,
may i ask the shell cordovan No. 4 owner what paste wax colour / Saphir shell cordovan line colour do you recommend?
Especially for my new 2-tones saddle shoes i guess i will use neutral as it's best...sparingly of course.
cheerio
Joachim

I have non-Alden ptb's in color 4. For color 4, I would recommend neutral.

Saphir's line of shell cordovan creams is limited in color selections, and unless I can make a very similar match, I opt for the neutral color. In my experience, the neutral has never left a white build-up of any sort.

I also use neutral on Whiskey.
post #30997 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkRanger View Post

I'm far from a soldier...shog[1].gif

come live in Cali. its boot season year-round icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #30998 of 122416
osh2f9.jpg
cigar lhs
argyles otc
post #30999 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

You're missing the point.
Saphir is not made in the USA and has no American heritage like Aldens. Venetian Shoe cream does.

Being made in the USA may be a positive aspect for you (and me), but it certainly does not make a product worse if the product is produced in France. I like the idea that Venetian is made in the US. That's why I purchased a tin of it. Knowing Saphir was made in France did not make Saphire Reno a "worse" product for me and I purchased that as well.

You do realize the shoes on your feet are the result of a global supply chain don't you? I bet Venetian is made from chemicals that might be sourced from France or some other non-US locale. Those damn frogs! Keep your hands off of our heritage shoe cream.
post #31000 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by kippy View Post


Being made in the USA may be a positive aspect for you (and me), but it certainly does not make a product worse if the product is produced in France. I like the idea that Venetian is made in the US. That's why I purchased a tin of it. Knowing Saphir was made in France did not make Saphire Reno a "worse" product for me and I purchased that as well.
You do realize the shoes on your feet are the result of a global supply chain don't you? I bet Venetian is made from chemicals that might be sourced from France or some other non-US locale. Those damn frogs! Keep your hands off of our heritage shoe cream.

 

No, but Saphir is worse performing as far as I'm concerned, and more expensive (even if it performed the same). That fact makes it worse to me.

 

Further, that Venetian Shoe Cream is not made offshore and shares an American heritage craftsmanship going back to the late 1800s/early 1900s, just like Alden and Horween, appeals. 

 

We all have our own decisions to make about how we spend our money and what appeals to us about Aldens in the first place. For me, the American heritage absolutely plays a part in that.

post #31001 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

No, but Saphir is worse performing as far as I'm concerned, and more expensive (even if it performed the same). That fact makes it worse to me.

This is opinion, not fact

Saphir as a line has a lot of fans here and elsewhere.
post #31002 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post


This is opinion, not fact
Saphir as a line has a lot of fans here and elsewhere.

 

Nope. That Saphir is more expensive than Venetian is far from an 'opinion'. 

post #31003 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Nope. That Saphir is more expensive than Venetian is far from an 'opinion'. 

Your assessment of Saphir's performance is the opinion I was referring to. It is more expensive, but many of us think it is a great product for cordovan (as well as other shoe leathers)

Also, I know someone else said that reno had turpentine in it - I haven't seen turpentine listed as an ingredient in renovateur (it is apparently used in the normal Saphir waxes, which I guess why they offer cordovan cream as well).
post #31004 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcarthur View Post

osh2f9.jpg
cigar lhs
argyles otc

Those look better than brand new!  Wish I could make mine look like that.

post #31005 of 122416
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcibiades View Post


Your assessment of Saphir's performance is the opinion I was referring to. It is more expensive, but many of us think it is a great product for cordovan (as well as other shoe leathers)

 

Of course that's an opinion, I stated so myself.  What part of 'as far as I'm concerned'  from my post above did you not understand?

 

It's also an opinion that so happens to be shared by Horween, the makers of the shell.

 

I know a lot of people like and swear by Saphir, and no one is doubting that is a good product, but not for the price charged vs. Venetian. Saphir is way over-hyped and definitely over-priced too. 

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Streetwear and Denim
This thread is locked  
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Streetwear and Denim › ***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.