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post #23491 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

I like shell just as much as anyone, but let the guy have his own opinion.
Also, I'm really not sure that shell is easier to care for. I've never needed to brush my calf shoes for 20 minutes at a time. Never have I heard anyone needing to buy a special bone for calf either.
Here's my calf shoe clean up method
  1. Rub with damp cloth.
  2. Dry
  3. Put on colored cream
  4. Brush for 30 seconds
  5. Polishing cloth for 30 seconds
Here's my shell shoe clean up method
  1. Rub with damp cloth.
  2. Dry
  3. Brush left shoe for 10 minutes
  4. Brush right shoe for 10 minutes
  5. Hit creases with the back of a spoon if they don't lose their wax
  6. Polishing cloth
I've also never had to deal with water spots on Calf shoes.


You do these things by choice. Do nothing or do these things way less and shell will still look better and last longer over all.

Also, neglected shell can be restored to a large extent, calf leather, nope.
post #23492 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

I like shell just as much as anyone, but let the guy have his own opinion.
Also, I'm really not sure that shell is easier to care for. I've never needed to brush my calf shoes for 20 minutes at a time. Never have I heard anyone needing to buy a special bone for calf either.
Here's my calf shoe clean up method
  1. Rub with damp cloth.
  2. Dry
  3. Put on colored cream
  4. Brush for 30 seconds
  5. Polishing cloth for 30 seconds
Here's my shell shoe clean up method
  1. Rub with damp cloth.
  2. Dry
  3. Brush left shoe for 10 minutes
  4. Brush right shoe for 10 minutes
  5. Hit creases with the back of a spoon if they don't lose their wax
  6. Polishing cloth
I've also never had to deal with water spots on Calf shoes.

I agree. I like shell, but I don't feel that it's really lower maintenance than calfskin. IME, shell scratches a lot more easily than calfskin and gets blotchier from water droplets than calfskin does.

I also find it more time consuming to polish. Sure, it generally doesn't need polish, but it needs more brushing time to get a good shine than calfskin does, IME.
post #23493 of 122416
the water droplets thing is a weird one. like I bought my shell shoes specifically for rain, and I have walked around in downpours and been completely dry and happy (plus dainite soles!). most leathers would have soaked through. and the shoes have come through spotless.

but some others have problems.
post #23494 of 122416
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Today, meeting with my tax CPA & decided to wear my new Ravello longwings from Leffot:
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That a granny knot on the left foot? *doh* frown.gif
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Originally Posted by makewayhomer View Post

the water droplets thing is a weird one. like I bought my shell shoes specifically for rain, and I have walked around in downpours and been completely dry and happy (plus dainite soles!). most leathers would have soaked through. and the shoes have come through spotless.
but some others have problems.

^ Have noticed the same thing. On my black shell captoes (aberdeen last) there is no blotches from rain at all. But on my two pairs of whiskey (Vass and Ron Rider) shells, the water stains can be a royal pita to remove, and I'm not convinced anything other than time can completely expunge them from the leather
post #23495 of 122416
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Originally Posted by furo View Post

On my black shell captoes (aberdeen last) there is no blotches from rain at all. But on my two pairs of whiskey (Vass and Ron Rider) shells, the water stains can be a royal pita to remove, and I'm not convinced anything other than time can completely expunge them from the leather

My worst spotted pair of shoes happens to be black. These shoes got it very badly after one rainy day. After 2 years of brushing and messing around, the shoes are still not really that smooth. It's a bummer. Now I don't wear shells in the rain.
post #23496 of 122416
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

You do these things by choice. Do nothing or do these things way less and shell will still look better and last longer over all.
Also, neglected shell can be restored to a large extent, calf leather, nope.

Shell actually looks terrible if you do nothing to it. They become a dusty mess.

Shell has a lot of fine qualities (I own 10 pair of shells for every pair of calf shoes), but the ease of maintenance is greatly overstated on these forums.
post #23497 of 122416
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

You do these things by choice. Do nothing or do these things way less and shell will still look better and last longer over all.
Also, neglected shell can be restored to a large extent, calf leather, nope.

That is not true. Neglected shell will dry out and crack over time just like calfskin does. Once it is cracked, I actually think that calfskin restores better than shell does, especially if you use something like Obenauf's LP, because it is more supple to start with.
post #23498 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


My worst spotted pair of shoes happens to be black. These shoes got it very badly after one rainy day. After 2 years of brushing and messing around, the shoes are still not really that smooth. It's a bummer. Now I don't wear shells in the rain.


Is it all worth it? My calfskins have been soaked through and I never had a pair that I could not bring back to nearly pristine condition. I can walk through anything in any season - no worries...

post #23499 of 122416
I think part of "ease of maintenance" gets rolled up into "toughness". Like suede shoes require a preventative spray, and an eraser, and a suede brush, and the nap can still get stained or rough looking despite great care.
post #23500 of 122416
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Originally Posted by commodorewheeler View Post


That is not true. Neglected shell will dry out and crack over time just like calfskin does. Once it is cracked, I actually think that calfskin restores better than shell does, especially if you use something like Obenauf's LP, because it is more supple to start with.


Obenauf is the best. I will work it into my leather - liberally - let the shoes sit/dry overnight. Then brush the heck out of them. Obenauf 's gives the best sheen of all the leather protectors I have used. They almost look like I polished them. I do this every 3 weeks or so - more if I do a lot of hiking. In between I just wipe them off with a damp cloth and brush.

post #23501 of 122416
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Today, meeting with my tax CPA & decided to wear my new Ravello longwings from Leffot:
525
524

He's going to think you've been keeping 2 sets of books ...
post #23502 of 122416
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Originally Posted by HorseHide View Post

He's going to think you've been keeping 2 sets of books ...

Nah, he does that for me. rolleyes.gif
post #23503 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


I like shell just as much as anyone, but let the guy have his own opinion.

I agree, but I do feel like I've seen him make 3 or so unprompted posts about how much better he likes calf than shell. It's a whatever opinion, but it seems the way he goes about his initial posts they're designed to provoke a defense of shell, like he's saying "I still don't understand why you guys like shell, even though that's your opinion and I don't care." Whether he's intentionally doing it or not, that's probably why people argue with him.

post #23504 of 122416
How about liking both equally? biggrin.gif
post #23505 of 122416
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Originally Posted by seer View Post



Is it all worth it? My calfskins have been soaked through and I never had a pair that I could not bring back to nearly pristine condition. I can walk through anything in any season - no worries...

For me it is... sometimes. I have old shells that have nearly zero creasing and don't welt at all. Those shoes are superb and are, in my opinion, better than anything available in calf. If only all shells were so good.

Calf has its place in my shoe rotation without a doubt.
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