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post #16831 of 122416
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Originally Posted by forex View Post

Question for those who have shell tassel loafers on aberdeen last. My suede and calf tassel loafers on aberdeen last fit me fine, in fact, I love the suede version and have multiple pairs. However, shell version was too lose in the heel and I'd have a heel slipage. So I went half a size down but then they were too short and uncomfortable. Will the heel slipage go away once I break in the shoes or am I out of luck with the shell tassels?

I probably would have gone down a width instead of down a half size. The Aberdeen last is too cramped in the toe box for me to contemplate dropping a half size.

I'm not sure about the heel slip, but it sounds like you might want to give a narrower width a shot assuming you haven't worn them yet.

Also, you're experience supports my feeling that shell shoes fit about a half width larger than the same shoe in a different material.
post #16832 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

I probably would have gone down a width instead of down a half size. The Aberdeen last is too cramped in the toe box for me to contemplate dropping a half size.
I'm not sure about the heel slip, but it sounds like you might want to give a narrower width a shot assuming you haven't worn them yet.

I am afraid that I won't have enough room in the toe if I do that. The polo tassels don't have that problem although they are much rougher and will probably take a minute to break in. They also don't fit me as well as the alden tassels but I can live with that.
post #16833 of 122416
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Originally Posted by forex View Post

I am afraid that I won't have enough room in the toe if I do that. The polo tassels don't have that problem although they are much rougher and will probably take a minute to break in. They also don't fit me as well as the alden tassels but I can live with that.

I'm sorry to hear that. I find the Aberdeen last to be an odd combination of a narrow toe box and a wide heel. I haven't been able to try enough sizes to get it dialed in.

The RL tassel looks really nice, but I couldn't imagine trying to break in that sole with a slip on. I've worm my Giffords 20 times and the sole is still extremely stiff.
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post #16835 of 122416
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

excuse me for beating a dead horse, but this issue continues to rattle me.
i agree that cordovan can be restored but thats not my point of contention. my questions is, if you have other options, why would you wear relatively new $650 non-hiking boot on a hike? because you want to beat them up and then be able to restore them?
this is different from wearing your boots to work in somewhat muddy, wet conditions where your primary obstacles are puddles, salt, snow, etc. ill post close-ups pics of my tobacco chamois indys that I use for hiking. I purchased them as hiking boots because a) they were purchased second hand and thus were already broken in, scraped, etc and b) the boot looks great while providing hiking utility. But shit, they arent $650 shell boots!

Shell boots are still boots. It just depends how you want them to look. If anything they should hold up better than cow leather in adverse conditions. I personally think all shell boots look better beat up. I wear mine on my motorcycle every day (different pairs). Banging around against the road and gear shifter scuffs them up pretty fast. Its probably harder on them than hiking but they still look great to me. The best part about shell is that you can brush out all kinds of damage with just a horsehair brush. If I want to dress up my color 8 cap-toes, I just brush them out. I usually don't even bother cause I like the way they look normally.
post #16836 of 122416
http://www.ebay.com/itm/620-New-Box-Alden-color-8-shell-cordovan-boots-64-worth-bonus-8-5D-J-Crew-/170710012135?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item27bf1c10e7

Interesting.

Seller is claiming J. Crew incorrectly lists these as being on a Barrie last because they spoke to Alden personally and they say they are on the Plaza last.

I own these and they feel and look pretty Barrie to me.
post #16837 of 122416
Namor, those tobacco chamois indys look pretty rough. The commando sole looks great though. Shell probably would have maintained its appearance better in the same situation. I can understand your hesitation in using them for hiking though.
post #16838 of 122416
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Originally Posted by burningbright View Post

http://www.ebay.com/itm/620-New-Box-Alden-color-8-shell-cordovan-boots-64-worth-bonus-8-5D-J-Crew-/170710012135?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item27bf1c10e7
Interesting.
Seller is claiming J. Crew incorrectly lists these as being on a Barrie last because they spoke to Alden personally and they say they are on the Plaza last.
I own these and they feel and look pretty Barrie to me.


I own these as well and going off sizing charts, much more resemble the barrie last than the plaza.

 

Aslo, I just put my J.Crew Indys up for sell on eBay if anyone is interested.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170710058468&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123#ht_500wt_1236

post #16839 of 122416
edit got my answer
Edited by chantheman - 10/10/11 at 1:10pm
post #16840 of 122416
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Originally Posted by burningbright View Post

http://www.ebay.com/itm/620-New-Box-Alden-color-8-shell-cordovan-boots-64-worth-bonus-8-5D-J-Crew-/170710012135?pt=US_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item27bf1c10e7
Interesting.
Seller is claiming J. Crew incorrectly lists these as being on a Barrie last because they spoke to Alden personally and they say they are on the Plaza last.
I own these and they feel and look pretty Barrie to me.

Here's the seller's direct quote: "These are Alden's Plaza last, which is known very close fit to standard U.S sizes. (We confirmed with Alden that J. Crew website is incorrect by stating these are Barrie last. And most other eBay sellers would never tell you this)."

Maybe "most other eBay sellers would never tell you this" because it's not true! Ha!
post #16841 of 122416
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Originally Posted by lambchop View Post

Shell boots are still boots. It just depends how you want them to look. If anything they should hold up better than cow leather in adverse conditions. I personally think all shell boots look better beat up. I wear mine on my motorcycle every day (different pairs). Banging around against the road and gear shifter scuffs them up pretty fast. Its probably harder on them than hiking but they still look great to me. The best part about shell is that you can brush out all kinds of damage with just a horsehair brush. If I want to dress up my color 8 cap-toes, I just brush them out. I usually don't even bother cause I like the way they look normally.

Pics of said boots!
post #16842 of 122416
Yes, pics of motorcycle beat up aldens! Because I've got 3 pair I'm eyeing and I ride, too. I want to see what I can look forward to! biggrin.gif
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I'm sure I'll get crucified for this, but the seconds from The Shoe Mart are simply just overstock or do they usually have a defect?  Is there a reason they don't list the last & product info?  How do you guys usually know exactly what it is when you order?  

 

I'm contemplating what my first Aldens should be (thinking Short/Long wing #8 Shells) and although the Barrie is so highly talked about I have a narrow foot so I'd prefer the Leydon or Grant last.

post #16844 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Dinosarti View Post

Taking shells hiking? I love how this guy mind works.... I say go for it. Please post pics afterwards....

I think it's important to look good in case you run into any hot hillbilly chicks. If it comes down to the dude wearing sandals with socks or the smart fellow sporting shell cordo Indys...come on. You're in like Flynn.
post #16845 of 122416
The seconds are factory irregulars, and they do list the lasts in the emails they send out (although they're not always correct). They all have some sort of defect, sometimes very noticable, sometimes not. You basically have to buy them sight-unseen and hope for the best. On some occasions I've spoken with someone on the phone who will actually pull the shoes and explain the defect. However, I wouldn't expect this sort of treatment. The way I look at it, I'm purchasing something I know to be defective. If the person on the other end of the phone wants to do me a favor by checking them out, great. If not, I'm willing to deal with some possible inconvenience and minimal return shipping costs.
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