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Thinking about dumping my small whiskey collection: new ptb, new Brooks unlined LHS, and chukkas. Should I do it? I have only worn the chukkas about 5 times. The others not at all.

I wear cigar and #8 all the time. Whiskey leather is too darn light.

what size are you?

post #120527 of 122416
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My daughter took this action shot of Indys as I was cleaning gutters.  She said, "You can post it for your nerdy boot friends."  So here 'tis: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Nerdy boot friends approve!
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Alpine Grain

post #120529 of 122416
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Oh I'm definitely not that concerned about the condition of the shoe.  I was just wondering, being a bit newer, was that a good deal in purchasing them.

My biggest detractor of purchasing them was my friend asking me "Do you need them?!" smile.gif
Of course you need them!
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Of course you need them!



Worse friends ever :D

 

Do you think that's a good value for them?

post #120531 of 122416
Originally Posted by 89826 View Post

Thinking about dumping my small whiskey collection: new ptb, new Brooks unlined LHS, and chukkas. Should I do it? I have only worn the chukkas about 5 times. The others not at all.

I wear cigar and #8 all the time. Whiskey leather is too darn light.

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what size are you?

If you don't wear them...then move them. I think you could easily find takers on this forum. As already mentioned what size are they?

Steve
post #120532 of 122416
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Originally Posted by bantone View Post
 

 

Oh I'm definitely not that concerned about the condition of the shoe.  I was just wondering, being a bit newer, was that a good deal in purchasing them.

 

My biggest detractor of purchasing them was my friend asking me "Do you need them?!" :)


I'm guessing you will enjoy them and probably not notice the original difference after a few wears.  Whichever way you go, I hope you enjoy your new bluchers often and in great health!

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American Classic! Very well done Sir!

Thank you. Your LHS posts inspire!

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nephew,
good looking combo and good shine on your king lhs

Thanks Uncle. OTC cashmere from Alex.
post #120534 of 122416
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Originally Posted by 89826 View Post

Thinking about dumping my small whiskey collection: new ptb, new Brooks unlined LHS, and chukkas. Should I do it? I have only worn the chukkas about 5 times. The others not at all.

I wear cigar and #8 all the time. Whiskey leather is too darn light.

If the unlined loafers are 10.5D or 11D, I call dibs!
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Alpine Grain
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Cute dog, schnauzer, right?  Oh, and nice boots, too!

post #120536 of 122416
No
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Spamming my own forum for a good cause: Charity auction for a La Portegna bag and wallet.  Go get it: http://www.styleforum.net/t/512486/styleforum-gives-2015-our-annual-holiday-charity-auctions-for-the-ronald-mcdonald-house/50_50#post_8209361

 

Oh right, and they would go well with Aldens.

post #120538 of 122416
Interesting piece from Ron Rider.

I personally have had only one Shell Marlow spot from rain. They were totally gone after months of wears and brushing. Then again I've had C&J Burgundy boots in 3 inches of downpour and never showed a lick, hence my proposition of shell being fine and most certainly better than calf in wet weather. Chip

Tom is being very PC .

I have never understood where this idea came from.....I suppose it's due to the fact that most that participate in a forum like this are concerned about APPEARANCE, and I can understand that, but - SHELL CORDOVAN IS MEANT TO BE WORN IN BAD WEATHER!!!!

Think about it....the popularity of the material is concentrated/originated in urban, outdoor, wet environments (the NorthEast USA, Chicago, SF-Seattle, Japan, Northern Europe)....areas with a large workforce that can be exposed, unexpectedly, to bad weather - and concrete/stone - at any time. I mean, the biggest advantage of the material is NOT that it looks good, that it takes a deep shine or that is smooth, etc....the advantage of Shell Cordovan is that it is virtually fiberless and therefore virtually waterproof and undestructable. Water will have absolutely no ill effect on Shell Cordovan. You also get the added benefit that concrete curbs won't tear up the material like they can calfskins, but water resistance is the key feature of SC. Concider this - when the Japanese tannery of shell sent me samples to use on our range, how did I test it? I took a Horween shell and one of their shells, cupped them and placed in a large box....filled each 'cup' with water and waited to see the results. The Horween shell NEVER leaked (3 days later) and the Japanese shell started to seap thru after 1.5 days. To me, this was a deciding factor to only use Horween's material in our line.....water resistance is #1 priority.

Now, will it show the effects of getting wet? Of course...how could it not? BUT, nothing Mother Nature can throw at it will destroy it - period. Not snow, not rain, not the salt that the Northern cities throw....it's impervious to a degree that no other upper (besides alligator - but that's another story) material is. When they get wet, and show some pimples...clean them! A little wipe of Renoveteur (or Alden's SC cream...A/E's....whatever you like), 2 minutes and a horsehair brush brings shell back to new. I think there are some examples from guys here that have had some permanent spotting problems with a random pair or two....I think that Alden finishes the #8 they get from Horween much darker when they get it (but I have no first hand knowledge of this...just an idea) and I imagine that too much left on the shell can cause some excessive spotting, but this is not typical - it just can sometimes happen with a natural material like leather (no matter which type) that it won't always be consistent when it arrives on a finished pair of shoes. The first work we did with shell in the factory had a result like this....we used more or less our calfskin finishing techniques and the workers had to learn that shell does not absorb like calf so the wax just sat 'on top' of the upper and moisture would get under the finish and bubble up....like a water ring on furniture, I suppose. Fortunately, these were just my personal fit trials and the first boots I did which went to friends to test the line, but I am sure this can happen again on random pairs coming out of any of the factories that make some SC shoes. Doesn't change a thing.....SHELL IS MEANT FOR BAD WEATHER.

So, IMO - wear 'em in any weather....they will take it.

Ron
post #120539 of 122416
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Originally Posted by chipshot View Post

Interesting piece from Ron Rider.

I personally have had only one Shell Marlow spot from rain. They were totally gone after months of wears and brushing. Then again I've had C&J Burgundy boots in 3 inches of downpour and never showed a lick, hence my proposition of shell being fine and most certainly better than calf in wet weather. Chip

Tom is being very PC .

I have never understood where this idea came from.....I suppose it's due to the fact that most that participate in a forum like this are concerned about APPEARANCE, and I can understand that, but - SHELL CORDOVAN IS MEANT TO BE WORN IN BAD WEATHER!!!!

Think about it....the popularity of the material is concentrated/originated in urban, outdoor, wet environments (the NorthEast USA, Chicago, SF-Seattle, Japan, Northern Europe)....areas with a large workforce that can be exposed, unexpectedly, to bad weather - and concrete/stone - at any time. I mean, the biggest advantage of the material is NOT that it looks good, that it takes a deep shine or that is smooth, etc....the advantage of Shell Cordovan is that it is virtually fiberless and therefore virtually waterproof and undestructable. Water will have absolutely no ill effect on Shell Cordovan. You also get the added benefit that concrete curbs won't tear up the material like they can calfskins, but water resistance is the key feature of SC. Concider this - when the Japanese tannery of shell sent me samples to use on our range, how did I test it? I took a Horween shell and one of their shells, cupped them and placed in a large box....filled each 'cup' with water and waited to see the results. The Horween shell NEVER leaked (3 days later) and the Japanese shell started to seap thru after 1.5 days. To me, this was a deciding factor to only use Horween's material in our line.....water resistance is #1 priority.

Now, will it show the effects of getting wet? Of course...how could it not? BUT, nothing Mother Nature can throw at it will destroy it - period. Not snow, not rain, not the salt that the Northern cities throw....it's impervious to a degree that no other upper (besides alligator - but that's another story) material is. When they get wet, and show some pimples...clean them! A little wipe of Renoveteur (or Alden's SC cream...A/E's....whatever you like), 2 minutes and a horsehair brush brings shell back to new. I think there are some examples from guys here that have had some permanent spotting problems with a random pair or two....I think that Alden finishes the #8 they get from Horween much darker when they get it (but I have no first hand knowledge of this...just an idea) and I imagine that too much left on the shell can cause some excessive spotting, but this is not typical - it just can sometimes happen with a natural material like leather (no matter which type) that it won't always be consistent when it arrives on a finished pair of shoes. The first work we did with shell in the factory had a result like this....we used more or less our calfskin finishing techniques and the workers had to learn that shell does not absorb like calf so the wax just sat 'on top' of the upper and moisture would get under the finish and bubble up....like a water ring on furniture, I suppose. Fortunately, these were just my personal fit trials and the first boots I did which went to friends to test the line, but I am sure this can happen again on random pairs coming out of any of the factories that make some SC shoes. Doesn't change a thing.....SHELL IS MEANT FOR BAD WEATHER.

So, IMO - wear 'em in any weather....they will take it.

Ron

Thanks for sharing such an informative post from a well redpected person. Much appreciated!
post #120540 of 122416
Amen. Shell is my go-to wet weather dress shoe of choice.

There are so many fellows on this forum who seem to freak out at the idea of drenching their precious shell cordovan shoes. Go figure...
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