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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos. - Page 7622post #114316 of 1224168/6/15 at 12:35pmpost #114317 of 1224168/6/15 at 12:48pm
True...although shipping is about half the cost of the topy work--if I'm shipping them off I'd prefer a complete conversion job. I think I've decided against the local cobbler, and the more I think about it the more it makes sense to me to just wear them as they are and when they need replacing convert to Dainite. I chose cordovan because it's durable and wears well for a long time. Dainite appears to be in the same world where that's concerned.
If you don't care about my calculation on the life of a Dainite sole, skip this part!...
Has anyone seen this blog? http://www.thisstylishlife.com/365-days-of-viberg-a-boot-review/. This guy says he walked 5 km a day for 100 consecutive days and his Dainite soles looked like this:
And here's a pic after 365 consecutive wears and my own lower estimate average of 3 km a day (1095 km or 680 miles).So let's take that conservative estimate of 680 miles and figure out how many years I could get out of Dainite soles if I wear my shoes 3 times a week to work and some on the weekend. Let's say 4 miles a week as an overestimate. 680 miles / 4 miles =170. Divide that by 52 to get years and it's 3.26. So as an underestimate the soles last over three years. And there is still some life left in the heels, which hasn't replaced.(note that if I take his word for it of 5 km a day over 365 days then that's 1825 km or 1134 miles. 1134 / 4 = 283.5 weeks, converts to 5.45 years.)It's conceivable that a Dainite sole could last me 4 years. If it costs $150 then that's $37.50 per year average. More or less the same as a topy sole-saver. And cheaper overall when one considers heel replacements have to be done, as well. And I wouldn't have to take it in to the cobbler every year (or more) or check/worry that it might be separating from the sole and/or whether it's worn through to the leather beneath.For a durable, long-lasting, worry-free, economical choice, Dainite appears to beat the topy and heel replacements option.Somewhat sorry for the digression, but since I had done the math I figured I'd share.
Back to the amazing Alden shoes now! :)
Can't wait to see more pics of these!!post #114318 of 1224168/6/15 at 12:52pmpost #114319 of 1224168/6/15 at 12:56pmpost #114320 of 1224168/6/15 at 1:14pm@McQ7 I have boots with Dainite sole that are 5 years old and aren't particularly close to needing a resole. granted I don't wear them a ton, but Dainite wears very hard. also imo is not the most comfortable sole as it is pretty hardpost #114321 of 1224168/6/15 at 1:19pmpost #114322 of 1224168/6/15 at 1:39pmpost #114323 of 1224168/6/15 at 1:54pm
@McQ7 what is your take on the slipping factor- granted I hardly ever slip in leather soled shoes but I have noticed Dainite gets tacky between 40-50 wears, So often people claim they are slick and I think it is just that most on SF have such big shoe rotations that they do not get that break in point and judge them that way.post #114324 of 1224168/6/15 at 2:09pmQuote:Originally Posted by Kahuna75
@McQ7 what is your take on the slipping factor- granted I hardly ever slip in leather soled shoes but I have noticed Dainite gets tacky between 40-50 wears, So often people claim they are slick and I think it is just that most on SF have such big shoe rotations that they do not get that break in point and judge them that way.
I've been wearing my boots all day on tile, carpet, smooth concrete, rough concrete, hardwood floors, stairs with smooth metal edge-pieces, etc., and I haven't felt a single slip. First time out of the house and these leather soles are barely roughed up. I have been really surprised how secure they feel underfoot.
I haven't owned a pair of Dainite-soled shoes before, but my takeaway on them is exactly as you described. I have other cheap shoes with rubber soles that are worn smooth. When I come in from the rain on the smooth concrete in my office building they're a bit slippery but I just watch my first few steps. Maybe Dainite is the same, and if so I'm ok with that. Sure, they will be slick in ice and snow, but then that's why I have my Palladium boots:post #114325 of 1224168/6/15 at 2:17pm
I have been laughed at and had eyebrows raised by friends and relatives when they hear that I keep a spreadsheet of all my footwear --- details of the pair, date purchased, date last worn, date last conditioned, number of times worn, type of sole, lining, weight, etc. OCD, I guess. But I feel better that I know how much wear my boots are getting.post #114326 of 1224168/6/15 at 2:28pmQuote:Originally Posted by BootSpell
I have been laughed at and had eyebrows raised by friends and relatives when they hear that I keep a spreadsheet of all my footwear --- details of the pair, date purchased, date last worn, date last conditioned, number of times worn, type of sole, lining, weight, etc. OCD, I guess. But I feel better that I know how much wear my boots are getting.
Wow, I'm impressed! You know exactly how different leather has taken different types and frequency of treatment, you know exactly which soles wear how much. This could be really useful data. I know the guy's blog I mentioned earlier really helped me understand exactly how durable Dainite is. There's a lot of vague statements out there about shoes, I'm discovering, and not a lot of hard data.post #114327 of 1224168/6/15 at 3:33pm
Leffot Greenwich in reverse chamois looking as good as new after some neatsfoot oil. The heavy application of oil had them performing very well today in the rain.
Here was a pic from before the neatsfoot oil, the leather had quite a nap and also lots of deep rust tones. Such a great leather, I would love to see a NST boot done in earth reverse chamois, contrast stitching. I think it would be awesome.post #114328 of 1224168/6/15 at 3:36pm
Today was an exciting day, as I think I finally nailed down my Barrie last sizing for shoes. After experiencing persistent heel slip in my 8D Barrie lasted shoes (but not boots), and getting some pretty tough heel blisters and soreness, I decided to try to go down a width for my next purchase.
Kathy at Alden DC was extremely helpful and I was able to settle on a beautiful pair of 975s in 8C. They arrived today, and they fit great. My heel is snug and comfortable, and the reduction in width did not affect the instep much - just made the toebox noticeably more snug. However, it's not too snug, especially with normal or light weight dress socks, as I usually wear thicker SmartWool Diamond Jim wool socks with my Barrie lasted shoes to add volume. I can even fit into them with the Diamond Jims.
I was craving color #8 longwings ever since I sold my pair of Florsheim Royal Imperials, and these hit the spot perfectly. Some pictures of what is, without a doubt, Alden's king:post #114329 of 1224168/6/15 at 3:43pmpost #114330 of 1224168/6/15 at 3:57pm
Congrats JS01. They look amazing! I've wanted to try an 8C in Barrie for a while, but they are very rare in the second hand market. I don't want to take a chance with a special order since I wouldn't be able to return them, not to mention full retail on Alden shell is out of my reach right now.
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