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post #111241 of 122416
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Originally Posted by JSO1 View Post


This is a little bit misleading.

What do you mean by "actual" color? The color of the shell before it is dyed by Horween? Well, you know what that is, that's undyed shell. It's light tan. I saw thousands of undyed shells at Horween last week.

Or do you mean the way Color #8 looks when it goes out the door at Horween? Color #8 shell is very dark burgundy when it goes out the door at Horween. Again, I saw it last week. I handled several Color #8 shells. They're super dark and a very deep burgundy. Alden's finish makes Color #8 look a little bit more purple, more like eggplant, but Color #8 shell is definitely not chocolate brown or brown at all (like that blog post about windowsill-lightening the color #8 wingtip boots) when it is finished at Horween.

It's actually exactly correct. Alden obtains #8 shell, in its actual color, from Horween (the same color as AE's burgundy shell). They then paint the shoes with the purple eggplant dye, post construction. They often don't even bother to paint the tongue where the laces cover on their bluchers. The purple paint is the first to burn off from exposure to the sun leaving a shoe in the actual color of #8 shell - people call this "patina", but it's really just the degradation of Alden's eggplant paint.

You're correct that additional exposure will further mute the color, but that takes a good while - the eggplant goes away relatively quickly. Someone took a pair of AE's through the process and documented it with pictures. They ended up more cherry than plain brown.
post #111242 of 122416
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Originally Posted by chrisefi View Post
 

 

That would be amazing, thank you!  You've got some killer Aldens, btw.

Thank you..we will not be arguing about my luck with the collection ; ) 

Some comparison shots..

inside/bright / top l-r Whiskey: chukka, WTBoot, WT / bottom Ravello: PTBoot, chukka PTB w/flank assists from Cigar chukka&WTBoot)

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

inside w/less light and no Cigar

 

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outside l-r Ravello, Cigar, Whiskey WT Boots, Ravello, Cigar

post #111243 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

Those have a remarkable shine. Nice work!

 

 

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Originally Posted by tricky View Post

Watchman1, those look clean!

 

 

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Originally Posted by MrDV View Post
 

thank you for sharing.

good lord they look great. nice job sir.

 

 

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Originally Posted by RSR3 View Post
 

 

Great work!

 

 

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Originally Posted by TommyB View Post


Nice work. I need that boot.

 

 

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Originally Posted by totalair1 View Post
 


Watchman!-these are really as good as it gets in boots.  Outstanding make up, one of top 2...glad I got a pair.  I like these so much I got a DC version with commando.  The Leffot version is more comfortable though.

 

Steve

 

 

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@Watchman1 - such an incredible shine, sir!  Do you have any tips to share on how you managed such brilliance?

(also, trying to find the 'spoiler' function so as not to re-post pictures.  Not having any luck) 

 

Gentlemen,

 

Thanks for your kind words.  These are some of my favs.

 

Great showing recently.  Congrats to all who got their AOM Cigars.  Looking good.

post #111244 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


It's actually exactly correct. Alden obtains #8 shell, in its actual color, from Horween (the same color as AE's burgundy shell). They then paint the shoes with the purple eggplant dye, post construction. They often don't even bother to paint the tongue where the laces cover on their bluchers. The purple paint is the first to burn off from exposure to the sun leaving a shoe in the actual color of #8 shell - people call this "patina", but it's really just the degradation of Alden's eggplant paint.

You're correct that additional exposure will further mute the color, but that takes a good while - the eggplant goes away relatively quickly. Someone took a pair of AE's through the process and documented it with pictures. They ended up more cherry than plain brown.


Thank you for clarifying what you meant by "actual color" of Color #8. While I agree with your principle (the Alden purple paint fades first), I don't think that in practice, using the sun to lighten Alden shoes will result in the shoe looking like "actual" Color #8, which is incredibly dark.

 

The sun will fade the purple part more heavily than the underlying shell, but I highly doubt that any pair of Aldens that has been lightened naturally by wear and outdoor exposure (or by the sun intentionally) will look anything like Color #8 does as it leaves Horween. I saw Color #8 shells with my own eyes, felt the shells, examined the shells, and the first thing I noticed was how dark they are. 

 

The only way to get "fresh" Color #8 is to either strip the Alden finish with RenoMat or to buy Color #8 shoes from a maker that does not apply much or any dye to their shells during production, like Carmina (according to Nick H.).

post #111245 of 122416
Is the J.Crew shell cap toe gone for good? I don't see it on their site anymore. Just curious.
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Originally Posted by mediahound View Post

Is the J.Crew shell cap toe gone for good? I don't see it on their site anymore. Just curious.

 

I had been hearing rumors around for awhile that they planned on discontinuing that model...

 

Then when they came out with that Indy I heard that was to replace it...

 

Looks like that may actually be the case.

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@mediahound are you going to do a video on your new #8 WT boots?

 

Just curious.

post #111248 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Watchman1 View Post
 

@mediahound are you going to do a video on your new #8 WT boots?

 

Just curious.


Sure will. Stay tuned :)

post #111249 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Watchman1 View Post
 

 

I had been hearing rumors around for awhile that they planned on discontinuing that model...

 

Then when they came out with that Indy I heard that was to replace it...

 

Looks like that may actually be the case.


Interesting. Yeah,  sure looks like it. 

post #111250 of 122416
Just picked these up from AoM today. As much as I liked those cigar boots I saw, I really wanted these classics in the rotation. These are my first "shoes" as everything else I have is boots.
post #111251 of 122416
The king!! Great grab
post #111252 of 122416
405's doing what they were made to do...
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Originally Posted by AKHelo View Post

405's doing what they were made to do...

Nothing like busting up some concrete in your Indies!
post #111254 of 122416
Anyone want to hop in on a preorder with me? I want to make some "Triple Crown" boots. American Pharoah whiskey shell cordovan wingtip boot.

Edit: This was a joke, I got a few PM's that thought this was serious. The first horse in 37 years just won the Triple Crown so my first thought was "mmmmm prizewinning cordovan" Let's turn his butt into boots!
Edited by Disco Volante - 6/6/15 at 5:52pm
post #111255 of 122416

My neighbor actually owns american pharaoh, not sure he'd be too happy with anyone knocking on his door asking for him to be made into boots....

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