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There probably isn't enough shell leftover since they are most likely using every square inch to make shoes/boots, now.

Does any other decent maker not offer a belt to match their shoes? Trickers, maybe, is another example but I can't think of any others. Does anyone know if the better English brands G&G/EG/JL make (or more likely subcontracts out) belts? IIRC Vass and Carmina can both provide shell belts on request.
post #109892 of 122416
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Does any other decent maker not offer a belt to match their shoes? Trickers, maybe, is another example but I can't think of any others. Does anyone know if the better English brands G&G/EG/JL make (or more likely subcontracts out) belts? IIRC Vass and Carmina can both provide shell belts on request.


Pretty sure you can get a belt from those English brands.

 

I think the issue is more the availability of shell cordovan right now.

post #109893 of 122416
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Pretty sure you can get a belt from those English brands.

I think the issue is more the availability of shell cordovan right now.
It could be materials availability, and I'd believe it for Cigar/Whiskey/Revello, but AE and BB can steadily produce their #8 and Black belts without too much trouble. I think it's an allocation issue - they're allocating whatever shell they can get to produce shoes, which probably have a much nicer margin up and down the value chain. It's economically rational, but too bad for people who don't already own an Alden shell belt - they're much nicer than the alternatives and a good value compared to Carmina/Vass.
post #109894 of 122416
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It could be materials availability, and I'd believe it for Cigar/Whiskey/Revello, but AE and BB can steadily produce their #8 and Black belts without too much trouble. I think it's an allocation issue - they're allocating whatever shell they can get to produce shoes, which probably have a much nicer margin up and down the value chain. It's economically rational, but too bad for people who don't already own an Alden shell belt - they're much nicer than the alternatives and a good value compared to Carmina/Vass.


Agreed. Hence my first comment.

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It could be materials availability, and I'd believe it for Cigar/Whiskey/Revello, but AE and BB can steadily produce their #8 and Black belts without too much trouble. I think it's an allocation issue - they're allocating whatever shell they can get to produce shoes, which probably have a much nicer margin up and down the value chain. It's economically rational, but too bad for people who don't already own an Alden shell belt - they're much nicer than the alternatives and a good value compared to Carmina/Vass.

Interesting.... So what's your take on the AE and Brooks belts?
post #109896 of 122416
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Interesting.... So what's your take on the AE and Brooks belts?

Brooks belts, assuming we're talking about shell, aren't very nice. The finishing on the shell is good, but the join (since 99.9% of all shell belts are three pieces) isn't very elegantly done. Also, the fit of the belt through the buckle isn't good (too tight so it rubs the edging away on multiple examples). The join on the AE belts are nicer, but the finishing sucks (like all AE shell). Also, there's a lack of suppleness with the AE/BB belts when compared to the Alden versions. Alden is, or I guess was, the best combination of feel, finishing, joining, and price I've experienced. I hope when the "cool" wears off of Alden, that they go back to making belts.
post #109897 of 122416
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Brooks belts, assuming we're talking about shell, aren't very nice. The finishing on the shell is good, but the join (since 99.9% of all shell belts are three pieces) isn't very elegantly done. Also, the fit of the belt through the buckle isn't good (too tight so it rubs the edging away on multiple examples). The join on the AE belts are nicer, but the finishing sucks (like all AE shell). Also, there's a lack of suppleness with the AE/BB belts when compared to the Alden versions. Alden is, or I guess was, the best combination of feel, finishing, joining, and price I've experienced. I hope when the "cool" wears off of Alden, that they go back to making belts.

Thanks for this. I was hoping one of the brands with more (any) availability was worth the price.
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Thanks for this. I was hoping one of the brands with more (any) availability was worth the price.

BB on sale is probably your best bet, and worth the cash. I have a few beater shell belts from them and the uglier join and worn edging doesn't detract from them too much during wear. It just sucks that a few small tweaks could take it to the next level.
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Joe,
I would love to see a picture of your ravello belt next to ravello shoes.
post #109900 of 122416
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Joe,
I would love to see a picture of your ravello belt next to ravello shoes.

I shall risk the hectoring of my wife by snapping a picture this evening.
post #109901 of 122416
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post


There probably isn't enough shell leftover since they are most likely using every square inch to make shoes/boots, now.

Same reason there is no shell on the seconds list wink.gif
post #109902 of 122416
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Same reason there is no shell on the seconds list wink.gif


I see you got what I really meant....

post #109903 of 122416
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I shall risk the hectoring of my wife by snapping a picture this evening.
1. This photo will be for educational purposes.
2. My wife knows my shoe pictures exist, I never take them when she's around.
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1. This photo will be for educational purposes.
2. My wife knows my shoe pictures exist, I never take them when she's around.

I once made the mistake of pulling out about a 5th of my shoe collection for a large scale cleaning. My wife couldn't believe I owned that many shoes... I didn't mention the other 4/5th of them sitting in the closet. shog[1].gif
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^  I believe in full transparency.  My wife knows about my boot addiction and what I spend on them.  She doesn't even raise an eyebrow anymore.  Conversely, she has a handbag and wallet addiction.  Works out in the end...

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