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I really don't mean to contradict you in the sense that I respect your observations and experience.  That said, I put the shoe trees in right away and have never noticed an issue myself.  I was conflicted on this until I read Vass's book.  He says to go ahead and put the trees right in.  In the end I think this stuff is very hard to quantify and the main point is that you should use shoe trees.


buda-I'm fine with your comments.  I think everybody agrees that shoe trees are a must for your shoes to look their best over time, and to minimize creasing, or even curling.  The second aspect...that of allowing the shoe to vent, or cool off is my opinion.  To further clarify...it's difficult to know how much a persons foot sweats, and another factor is how often is the shoe worn?

 

Here's what I do know is fact for me.   My foot does moderately sweat, and I live in Texas which gets very hot in the summer.  When I was younger I could not afford a large collection of upper end shoes.  Many of my shoes and boots got worn several days in a row.  I noticed the inner leather liner would wear through, or crack where the foot flexes.  Usually in the area of the shoe or boot has a cap (inside between the outer leather and inner leather)....at the edge where the arch tapers down.  In some cases the leather liner would just fall apart. During this time frame I was using shoe trees.  Back then I would put the shoe tree in immediately.  However I was getting the inner leather liner failure as mentioned above.  Back during that time frame there was a Church's shoe at the high end Galleria mall.  I talked to them about these issues and what I could do to extend the life?  I wanted to know before I purchased my first cordovan leather shoes.  This guy was the one who told me to let my shoes vent a while before I put the shoe tree in.  I tried it, and what I found is that my shoes dried out inside a lot faster.  Everybody's foot is different, climate where worn are too.  What I do know is I've not experienced a failure of the inner liner since I started venting for 30 min after wearing and using the 1 day worn and 2 days off method.  No doubt it's extra work to allow a 30 min vent period but it does not hurt anything either.  I'm getting into details because many of the members reading this only have a few pairs of nice shoes and I'm trying to give advice to newbies too.  No doubt you are not new to this forum and I've got a lot from your posts.

 

Steve


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Guess i can finally post in the alden thread now that i bought these 403s
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I was conflicted on this until I read Vass's book.  He says to go ahead and put the trees right in.

 

Exactly the point I was going to make, although he might not have had CXL or other casual leathers in mind.

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Guess i can finally post in the alden thread now that i bought these 403s

Welcome!  Wearing my Indy's (405) today as well :fistbump:

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buda-I'm fine with your comments.  I think everybody agrees that shoe trees are a must for your shoes to look their best over time, and to minimize creasing, or even curling.  The second aspect...that of allowing the shoe to vent, or cool off is my opinion.  To further clarify...it's difficult to know how much a persons foot sweats, and another factor is how often is the shoe worn?

 

Here's what I do know is fact for me.   My foot does moderately sweat, and I live in Texas which gets very hot in the summer.  When I was younger I could not afford a large collection of upper end shoes.  Many of my shoes and boots got worn several days in a row.  I noticed the inner leather liner would wear through, or crack where the foot flexes.  Usually in the area of the shoe or boot has a cap (inside between the outer leather and inner leather)....at the edge where the arch tapers down.  In some cases the leather liner would just fall apart. During this time frame I was using shoe trees.  Back then I would put the shoe tree in immediately.  However I was getting the inner leather liner failure as mentioned above.  Back during that time frame there was a Church's shoe at the high end Galleria mall.  I talked to them about these issues and what I could do to extend the life?  I wanted to know before I purchased my first cordovan leather shoes.  This guy was the one who told me to let my shoes vent a while before I put the shoe tree in.  I tried it, and what I found is that my shoes dried out inside a lot faster.  Everybody's foot is different, climate where worn are too.  What I do know is I've not experienced a failure of the inner liner since I started venting for 30 min after wearing and using the 1 day worn and 2 days off method.  No doubt it's extra work to allow a 30 min vent period but it does not hurt anything either.  I'm getting into details because many of the members reading this only have a few pairs of nice shoes and I'm trying to give advice to newbies too.  No doubt you are not new to this forum and I've got a lot from your posts.

 

Steve

 

 

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Exactly the point I was going to make, although he might not have had CXL or other casual leathers in mind.

 

Go with what works and by all means, I'm not arguing with solid results.  Definitely interesting to hear about all of that, Steve.  My only real interest in posting was too provide another perspective because some people freak out when they hear about one way of doing things and think they have to go that route or there will be huge issues.  Now, based on your post, I realize that perhaps your method could be the best result for some people.  I have many issues but feet that sweat a lot are not among them - so maybe I have been ok simply because of that.  I've been to Dallas in the summer and I appreciate where you are coming from (no pun intended).

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Guess i can finally post in the alden thread now that i bought these 403s

Looking good. Enjoy them.

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Whiskey chukkas 

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Guess i can finally post in the alden thread now that i bought these 403s

Yes you may my friend.

This is a classic model. I need me some....
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TOTG-Does any repair shops do the Alden type commando sole replacement?  I'm sure there's somewhat similar, but does anyone do a replacement of the Alden commando sole outside of Alden?

Steve

The guys at the Shoe Mart have told me that their cobbler gets his soles direct from Alden. I'm not sure who they use but turnaround is usually pretty quick.
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Try moulded shoe.

 

 

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The guys at the Shoe Mart have told me that their cobbler gets his soles direct from Alden. I'm not sure who they use but turnaround is usually pretty quick.


Thanks for the tips guy!

 

Steve

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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post
 

 

 

 

Go with what works and by all means, I'm not arguing with solid results.  Definitely interesting to hear about all of that, Steve.  My only real interest in posting was too provide another perspective because some people freak out when they hear about one way of doing things and think they have to go that route or there will be huge issues.  Now, based on your post, I realize that perhaps your method could be the best result for some people.  I have many issues but feet that sweat a lot are not among them - so maybe I have been ok simply because of that.  I've been to Dallas in the summer and I appreciate where you are coming from (no pun intended).


buda-No worries...I totally agree there is not 1 answer for this scenario.  In the grand scheme of things Texas has very poor coverage of Alden's.  There is only 1 store in the DFW area that carries Alden.  I've seen a lot of posts from Alden fans in Texas but suspect they are transplants of like me buy everything on line or during travels.  Climate has a lot to do with how much a foot perspires.  To be honest compared to many I've talked to in Texas my foot is not excessive, I think pretty normal.  One of this forum's members moved to Houston and he talked about getting rid of his Alden boots because it stays warm year round there.  I think its fair to say many of the members of this forum don't really do much of anything but walk in their Alden's.  All of my non-shell have been to construction sites, attics, roofs, fishing, hunting, mud, snow ,etc. All of my Alden's and every shoe I own for the most part have been worn during conditions where you sweat.  There's no way to avoid sweating in Dallas on a hot summer day when it's 105-110 degrees.  It's not uncommon to see temperatures close to 12 midnight during the summer in the mid to high 90's.   I've worn my shells in many of those conditions too, but I don't intentionally abuse my shells.  One way to know if your shoes could use some "breathing" is to observe the inner leather...is it darker in some areas...that very well may be moisture wicked from your foot.

 

Steve

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Unlined Snuff LHS today

 

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Unlined Snuff LHS today

 


Lookin' sharp! These are going to be my first loafer for sure. I like them more and more each time I see them 

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Alden Leather Defender:

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My friend has a pair of color 8 boots that are a few years old and look amazing. They became a lot lighter due to sun exposure. Sucks that I forgot to take a picture but I'm curious if anyone experimented with Intentionally leaving shell color 8 out in the sun for any amount of time. Direct sun exposure for an hour a day wouldn't damage it right?
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