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post #106456 of 122416

An ebay auction for a pair of virtually new Halleck boots (black edge, commando) ended this evening.  Opening bid was $549 and I'm amazed they went untouched.  I am dying for a pair of halleck/brixtons and would have been all over them, except they were a half size small at 8.5D.  

 

But, the temptation to try to fit them led me to learn a few things, and that follows on the recent conversation about foot length and arch length.  I have always known I was a tweener--between a 9 and 9.5, but I have never measured my own feet carefully on a brannock device.  Turns out my left foot is a 9+ and my right foot is an 8.5.  But get this--my heel-to-ball is a 10 for both feet.  This makes sense, as I consider myself, for whatever reason (what shoes they feel best in) a true 9.5.  Brannock will say that it's the larger of the two measurements (heel-to-toe vs heel-to-ball) but a 10 for me would have too much extra room to work.  

 

So, even though I felt I had enough toe room in my 9D barrie shell boots to fit into an 8.5, it really wouldn't have been appropriate for my relatively long arch length.  Walking in them would have been very uncomfortable.

 

Anyway, FWIW........

post #106457 of 122416
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Originally Posted by gr789 View Post

1st- those boots are the coolest ever.  Happy Birthday!
2nd- those chukkas are excellent firsts for you guys.  I hope you enjoy for years to come.
Thank you!
post #106458 of 122416

Cigar in the sun:

AppleMark


Also, on the subject of confusing sizing issues, how far off does everyone consider the Trubalance from the Barrie?  For me, the TB in 10.5D is a nearly perfect fit; the Barrie in 10.5D feels slightly too short and too narrow.  I'm wondering if it's possibly a difference in materials (CXL on TB and cordovan on Barrie), or if the lasts are different enough to warrant different sizes.  Is anyone else in the same boat, or do you all just size both the same?

post #106459 of 122416
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Cigar in the sun:

AppleMark


Also, on the subject of confusing sizing issues, how far off does everyone consider the Trubalance from the Barrie?  For me, the TB in 10.5D is a nearly perfect fit; the Barrie in 10.5D feels slightly too short and too narrow.  I'm wondering if it's possibly a difference in materials (CXL on TB and cordovan on Barrie), or if the lasts are different enough to warrant different sizes.  Is anyone else in the same boat, or do you all just size both the same?

Well, TB is going to be more generous - more voluminous - than Barrie even though most people size the same in both, but the leather is going to also make a difference. You're going to get a lot of give with Horween's CXL or kudu that you won't get with shell cordovan. I even have a shell boot that's a 9.5D in TB and I would take a 9D in CXL, but it's still more or less fine. SO, IMHO, shell in barrie is certainly going to be more snug than, say, CXL in TB. Since Alden's come in a variety of widths, that gives you some place to experiment. Also, it should be pointed out that everyone has a different shaped foot regardless of "size" and some lasts will work better for you than others. For me, barrie and TB are always fine at 9D, but Grant is unworkable at a 9.5D, even though I am a 9.5D on the brannock and conventional wisdom says that Grant is TTS. Maybe a 9.5E would work, but I have not tried that. Making a pilgrimage to an Alden Shop can be insightful : )

post #106460 of 122416
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quick pickup, whomever passed on these from DC thanks smile.gif



If those are 10D, that was me. Any time! I couldn't justify those and the AoM Whiskey wingtip boots to the wife at the same time even though one was paid for months ago.
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Wow, between the shipping packaging and that welt, this is not the best 1st Alden experience.  Other vendors do shipping and handling better than JCrew (Epaulet, theShoeMart, NeedSupply come to mind).  Although some Aldens that I have handled have QC problems similar to those you picture, some of my Aldens have had almost none. 

I've returned Indy boots to J crew twice after multiple wears and gotten a new pair overnighted to me due to QC issues that have arisen. The one thing I will credit them for is other retailers may give you hard time if they're worn. I'd get in touch with their customer service. They're extremely customer friendly.
post #106461 of 122416
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Cigar in the sun: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
AppleMark


Also, on the subject of confusing sizing issues, how far off does everyone consider the Trubalance from the Barrie?  For me, the TB in 10.5D is a nearly perfect fit; the Barrie in 10.5D feels slightly too short and too narrow.  I'm wondering if it's possibly a difference in materials (CXL on TB and cordovan on Barrie), or if the lasts are different enough to warrant different sizes.  Is anyone else in the same boat, or do you all just size both the same?

Those are very nice! I'm waiting patiently for Cigar to become available again.

I find that Trubalance feels more volumnous than Barrie. Most people would say that Barrie = Trubalance but perhaps your foot is such that you'd be better suited going up in size on Barrie.

With respect to material, I typically find the same size cordovan shoe (example suede LWB vs cordovan LWB) to fit fuller than their equivalently sized non-cordovan shoe. Not sure what other folks experience though.
post #106462 of 122416
Made it through pre-check with my Indys on. So I have that going for me, which is nice.
post #106463 of 122416

Hello all, I have a question regarding fitting of Van last .

 

I must confess that until so far I was not very lucky with alden fitting / sizing, as in my country there is not a single store selling Aldens.

 

I owned / own:

PTB Humus from FB on Barrie on 9E -> had to sell as they were wide and long. 8.5D is mostly sure my size on Barrie.

4060H (Grant)  9E - I kept them but wear them with an insole . 9D would certainly have been better

Unlined chukka (Leydon) in 9E -> that I have the felling as well 9D would have been better. Length is ok.

 

My doubt that I want to order the unlined penny loafer in snuff and I am not sure weather I should go for a 9D or a 8.5D.

 

any ideas that might help?

 

thank you very much

post #106464 of 122416
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Originally Posted by brp2 View Post
 

Cigar in the sun:

AppleMark


Also, on the subject of confusing sizing issues, how far off does everyone consider the Trubalance from the Barrie?  For me, the TB in 10.5D is a nearly perfect fit; the Barrie in 10.5D feels slightly too short and too narrow.  I'm wondering if it's possibly a difference in materials (CXL on TB and cordovan on Barrie), or if the lasts are different enough to warrant different sizes.  Is anyone else in the same boat, or do you all just size both the same?


I wear different sizes on these two lasts. The Truebalance is so wide that I can size down a half.

post #106465 of 122416

Some worn well Natty CXL for me today, along with some Gustin Japan One Sevens.

post #106466 of 122416
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Originally Posted by Alpina View Post

Made it through pre-check with my Indys on. So I have that going for me, which is nice.

 



Score! I was in a court house once where my watch set of the detector and it never has in any other. (Ruled it out by trial and error) The officer informed me it may have been closer to the sides than normal. Which makes sense. SO, maybe if you shuffle your feet dead in the middle, one in front of the other in the detector, it helps smile.gif

Or in my case the sensitivity could have been higher, and maybe your case lower.
post #106467 of 122416
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Some worn well Natty CXL for me today, along with some Gustin Japan One Sevens.



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Really hoping JCrew does these again. Or someone.
post #106468 of 122416
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Unfortunately that's pretty par for the course.
Yep. There's nothing like waiting six months for an off size rare she'll shoe to arrive and finding obvious QC problems. AE is far worse though.
post #106469 of 122416
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I respectfully disagree--that's a botch job and they should solidly be considered  seconds.  
Should they be seconds? Sure. Are they? Nope, and there are much worse first quality shoes floating around.
post #106470 of 122416
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Originally Posted by cezinho View Post

Hello all, I have a question regarding fitting of Van last .

I must confess that until so far I was not very lucky with alden fitting / sizing, as in my country there is not a single store selling Aldens.

I owned / own:
PTB Humus from FB on Barrie on 9E -> had to sell as they were wide and long. 8.5D is mostly sure my size on Barrie.
4060H (Grant)  9E - I kept them but wear them with an insole . 9D would certainly have been better
Unlined chukka (Leydon) in 9E -> that I have the felling as well 9D would have been better. Length is ok.

My doubt that I want to order the unlined penny loafer in snuff and I am not sure weather I should go for a 9D or a 8.5D.

any ideas that might help?

thank you very much

Your instep is going to really impact your van sizing. Most go down a half size on the van (same as Barrie) but I take the same length as the Hampton, but size down two widths. That gets the strap lower on my foot and keeps the loafer nice and tight. Unless you have a very standard foot, or aren't particularly picky about fit, buying based on online feedback isn't great - especially when you already have a bunch of shoes that don't fit properly.
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