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post #211 of 228
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Originally Posted by saint View Post
Like audiophiles, coffee geeks are a useful segment of society. They put out huge amounts of posts discussing in minute detail every product, in their particular area of interest, out there. What's not to like? You can get tons of info with little effort and make an informed decision after spending a few minutes digesting the reviews and the counter-posts.

+1. But nobody likes the following:
"I bought a new Krups grinder last night. I'm very pleased with the results so far"
"Krups is an awful choice. You'll get undrinkable results, but you probably aren't drinking single-origin coffee anyways"

as I've said before, look at each individual post in the wines thread and you wont see anything close to some of the harsher posts on this particular thread.
post #212 of 228
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post
Just go to Seattle for a few days and come back to me...

Art of life cultures have this inferiority complex about them that makes their proponent prone to overcompensating. Not that they're not on to something, comparing coffee to music or dance would just be ludicrous, it's just a nice, everyday thing that you can appreciate but not a noble pursuit that touches the sublime UNLESS you manage to build a culture around it that aims at some form of transcendence, like the Japanese did with tea.

Do you see wine as passing the above test?
post #213 of 228
I don't like wine cocks either. I make it a priority to not be one of them.
post #214 of 228
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Do you see wine as passing the above test?
Totally, we have a real wine culture in the western world and it is not chiefly aimed at single 30something white males. It has been going on for a long time, has its institutions and its myths. Having gathered recognition oenophiles usually don't bug me with their pretensions, they're happy to share but non-combative. This is, of course, a generalization. I like reading girl's Japanese comics, they're fun and full of (melo)drama. I'm not going to pretend I don't think the average male fan isn't some fat swine living in his mom's basement and spending his time masturbating to underage cartoon porn or fucking anime character pillows.
post #215 of 228
Espressione CA4865 Supremma, anyone have expirence with this one? I can get it for $530
post #216 of 228
What do you want it for?
post #217 of 228
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Originally Posted by b1os View Post

What do you want it for?

lattes, espresso, cappuccino
post #218 of 228
Generally, you don't want a semi automatic espresso machine, right? Is it for home use or the office?
I don't have a clue about that machine (and a short Google search yielded just mediocre "reviews" -- one of which states that the person got the machine for 550$ from Macy's, so the price isn't all that special). I'm sure you can guess that I would recommend you a semi automatic espresso machine along with a decent grinder. You can get that for 530$. Of course, it wouldn't hurt (does it ever?) to spend a buck or two more, but a Gaggia Classic is fine (if you don't want to make three cappucci at once). BUT, if you aren't passionate about espresso and don't really want to fiddle around with anything, get a Nespresso machine, because it will be much closer to espresso than super automatic machines. The milk thingy is ok, too (but of course it's not even close to microfoam like you have when you properly steam-froth).

So, it's helpful to know how much and where it's used and what your expectations are.
post #219 of 228
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Originally Posted by b1os View Post

Generally, you don't want a semi automatic espresso machine, right? Is it for home use or the office?
I don't have a clue about that machine (and a short Google search yielded just mediocre "reviews" -- one of which states that the person got the machine for 550$ from Macy's, so the price isn't all that special). I'm sure you can guess that I would recommend you a semi automatic espresso machine along with a decent grinder. You can get that for 530$. Of course, it wouldn't hurt (does it ever?) to spend a buck or two more, but a Gaggia Classic is fine (if you don't want to make three cappucci at once). BUT, if you aren't passionate about espresso and don't really want to fiddle around with anything, get a Nespresso machine, because it will be much closer to espresso than super automatic machines. The milk thingy is ok, too (but of course it's not even close to microfoam like you have when you properly steam-froth).
So, it's helpful to know how much and where it's used and what your expectations are.

It would be for home use for the two of us. We'd use it every day. I currently have an old Krups and a seperate grinder but the prospect of having everything automated sounds nice.
post #220 of 228
So, home use would favor a non-automatic one. However, you don't really seem fond of the idea of having to "really" get into the topic, do you (if you have some questions, just PM)? If you can, think about the idea. Would there be a bigger budget available? If it would, an espresso machine with a heat exchanger will make life easier when frothing milk. OTOH, I do just fine with my Rancilio Silvia when I froth milk for two cappuccini. In Germany, you can get the Rancilio Silvia and CM80 Graf grinder for 500€. It's in your budget, and once you get the idea of what works and what doesn't, it won't be very difficult to use. Moreover, there is much less loss of value with the Silvia as opposed to a full automatic. And you won't have to deal with complicated cleaning cycles (or even have to pay someone to do it).
But again, if you really just want some coffee on demand, I would still not get an automatic one. Like I said, get a Nespresso machine, pay a little absurd prices for the coffee, but actually get a beverage that's closer to espresso than what most automatic ones can ever produce. Hope that helps. Maybe A Y and others can chime in.

Also, I'd rather avoid automatic once because it is a hygienic disaster (mold). Really gotta clean the brewing group every day and in most super automatic ones you can't even remove it and clean by hand. Yummy. And don't even think about the area that comes in contact with the milk. Lots and lots of work to keep the whole system clean.
Edited by b1os - 9/8/12 at 8:09am
post #221 of 228
Interesting points. I'll have to do more research. Thanks.
post #222 of 228
was wondering if anyone had experience with either of these machines. I like the design of both, read this thread and did not see them mentioned:

http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=326758#axzz1pfhmulzG


http://www.jlhufford.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ascaso-steel-uno-professional
post #223 of 228
I would avoid the Breville. Ascaso is decent for the money, also worth checking out for the same price is the Rancilo Silvia. Don't forget to budget for a decent grinder too.
post #224 of 228
ive been dismissive of the single-cup format chiefly because of the notion of sheer waste in production and material, but also because most the ones ive sampled just simply taste bad. (especially those k-cups)

my new office has the Nespresso... love the simplicity of espresso vs lungo (the only thing i drink). no extraneous features, styles, machines, gimmicky LCD displays... just water, heat, pressure, and coffee. and it tastes good with a nice crema

so got me a Krups machine for home foo.gif

now the only question is whether these bio-degradable pods taste just as good
http://www.ethicalcoffeecompany.com/
post #225 of 228
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Originally Posted by Edsal17 View Post

I would avoid the Breville. Ascaso is decent for the money, also worth checking out for the same price is the Rancilo Silvia. Don't forget to budget for a decent grinder too.


Thanks for the advice, while researching teh Ascaso, I also came across the Dream Up machines, really cool looking machines, and about $100 more than the one I linked. Do you know much about these?

http://www.amazon.com/Ascaso-DUBBVMG-Dream-Espresso-Machine/dp/B003SBFSV4
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