I currently have a new pair of PBJ XX-007's in size 34 raw. Been wearing them for about a month. Off the shelf and unwashed, they fit pretty good. The only thing is, the rise is a bit tight in my crotch. But I can deal with it. I have yet to wash/soak them as I don't want them to shrink at all. I know they are unsanforized, but if they shrink any, they'll be too tight. I didn't get a size up because if I did that and then shrunk them, the waist would be too large (even with shrinking). I'm 6'2", 190 pounds and I generally wear a 34 or 35 tagged size. I'm thinking about getting another pair of PBJ since I like them. But, I'm looking at the 009's since they're supposed be just like the 007's but a slightly looser fit, especially in the rise. My question is, this time around should I go with a 36 raw and actually hot soak them like you're supposed to? Get another pair of 34's and not soak them like I've done with the 007's. Or go with a 36 one wash? It's all very confusing to me.