Pure Blue Japan (Denim) - Official Thread

[commodorewheeler]

Originally Posted by whatever123

but see thats the point ... i dont think they would ever do that or let that happen. i am POSITIVE they would have mentioned the fact they they will shrink in the situation you mentioned above.
Mistakes can be made. It wouldn't be the first time that BiG made a mistake on something, that I can tell you for sure from experience, and this has nothing to do with my first order from them.

Originally Posted by whatever123

you know what your right, they should totally hold your hand. im going to talk them about hiring a full-time "hand holder" to appease people you like you. as for me, they have always been 100%.
I know you're being sarcastic, but the truth is, if they did that, or even if they had one of their current employees start communicating with first-time customers, it wouldn't worsen their customer service.

 

[whatever123]

Originally Posted by commodorewheeler

Mistakes can be made. It wouldn't be the first time that BiG made a mistake on something, that I can tell you for sure from experience, and this has nothing to do with my first order from them.



I know you're being sarcastic, but the truth is, if they did that, or even if they had one of their current employees start communicating with first-time customers, it wouldn't worsen their customer service.

thats strange, they have never made a mistake with me and i order at least something from them every other weeks ... sometimes more often

 

[FiveFiveFive]

Originally Posted by whatever123

thats strange, they have never made a mistake with me and i order at least something from them every other weeks ... sometimes more often

Let it go, buddy.

 

[whatever123]

Originally Posted by FiveFiveFive

Let it go, buddy.

you dont like it block me.

but no, i am not going to let someone make a comment w/o questioning it and providing my opinion.

 

[tropics]

Originally Posted by whatever123

but see thats the point ... i dont think they would ever do that or let that happen. i am POSITIVE they would have mentioned the fact they they will shrink in the situation you mentioned above.

that's why i'm hoping the original guy comes back and lets us know his thoughts on the whole experience.

 

[aaronxxx]

Originally Posted by commodorewheeler

OK. So who's getting these new 24 oz. PBJ models coming in the next month or so? I've heard that there will be a regular indigo model, a deep indigo model, and a purple face model. Cuts will be based on XX-005 and XX-011, rumor has it that the XX-005 cuts will only be available in smaller sizes and the XX-011 cuts will only be available in larger sizes.

what would deep indigo be? would that have the threads dyed to the core instead of just the outside? i recently got out of my three year long love affair with PBJ but this could get me back in their barn

 

[IIIrd Icon]

Originally Posted by aaronxxx

hot soak them. while they are still damp, put your feet on the leg openings and pull up as hard as you can from different parts of the jean (by the knees, by the crotch, etc). just like every other part of the jean, the inseam can stretch back out. since it won't get force applied to it like most areas of the jean (the waist, the thighs), you have to do it yourself.

imo, the practice is an exercise in futility. i don't think any1's up to such inconvenience every wash throughout the rest of its miserable jeans life. somehow, sometime they're bound to end up @FS/FT or given away. better part with 'em while they still got good value for sale or trade.

 

[commodorewheeler]

Originally Posted by aaronxxx

what would deep indigo be? would that have the threads dyed to the core instead of just the outside? i recently got out of my three year long love affair with PBJ but this could get me back in their barn

Deep indigo is like the XX-007, where the warp threads and weft yarns are both dyed indigo instead of the weft being white. The threads are not dyed to the core, the cores are still white.

Originally Posted by IIIrd Icon

imo, the practice is an exercise in futility. i don't think any1's up to such inconvenience every wash throughout the rest of its miserable jeans life. somehow, sometime they're bound to end up @FS/FT or given away. better part with 'em while they still got good value for sale or trade.

I agree, it sounds like it would be a pain if you had to do that every time the jeans got wet.

 

[FourT6and2]

Wow. A lot of drama over this.... I don't know why you are all so uptight and hostile. I certainly didn't mean to come in here and start drama. When I went to BIG I tried on a number of jeans from a few different brands. I liked the PBJ's the most. The two sizes I was considering buying were 34 and 36 raw. The 34's seamed a bit tight and I wanted to go up to a 36. However, I was told numerous times (quite clearly) that the 34 will "stretch out and be perfect." And that the 36 would be too big. I then asked, "These are unsanforized, right? They will shrink when I wash them, right? Shouldn't I size up to a 36?" They said. "No." So, I took their word for it. Even after clarifying again. They then offered to hem them and I said ok. I cold-soaked them once, for about an hour. No shrinkage. Since wearing them for a few weeks, they have loosened up in the waste about an inch or so. I've noticed no other changes, really. I don't plan on hot-soaking them now. Just cold water. I rather like these PBJ's (except for the tight crotch). I guess the ideal thing to do is get a 36 in either the 007 or 009 and then actually hot-soak them. But, from the measurements they give on their website a size 34 and 36 both have the same exact rise (for the 007's). I guess the thing to do (if I want to stick with PBJ), is get a 36 raw in the 009's and hot-soak them. Then hem them and I'll be good to go? Hopefully? Maybe? Perchance? In any event, it'd be nice to get some actual advice rather than "go buy some other brand" or people getting all melodramatic. They're just pants. They cover your balls in public. Lighten up.

To all the people talking about how it's my fault this or my fault that, or about all the disclaimers on their website about shrinkage: I didn't buy these jeans online. I was walking around NYC and stopped into their store. In person. Mano y mano. Face to face. In the flesh. I told them I had never touched, let alone tried on raw unsanforized denim before. They said go with the 34. So I did. But if I hot soak them, they will definitely NOT fit me anymore. So, in the future I guess I need to size up one or even two tag sizes. Right?

 

[commodorewheeler]

Originally Posted by FourT6and2

Wow. A lot of drama over this.... I don't know why you are all so uptight and hostile. I certainly didn't mean to come in here and start drama.

When I went to BIG I tried on a number of jeans from a few different brands. I liked the PBJ's the most. The two sizes I was considering buying were 34 and 36 raw. The 34's seamed a bit tight and I wanted to go up to a 36. However, I was told numerous times (quite clearly) that the 34 will "stretch out and be perfect." And that the 36 would be too big.

I then asked, "These are unsanforized, right? They will shrink when I wash them, right? Shouldn't I size up to a 36?" They said. "No." So, I took their word for it. Even after clarifying again. They then offered to hem them and I said ok.

I cold-soaked them once, for about an hour. No shrinkage. Since wearing them for a few weeks, they have loosened up in the waste about an inch or so. I've noticed no other changes, really.

I don't plan on hot-soaking them now. Just cold water.

I rather like these PBJ's (except for the tight crotch). I guess the ideal thing to do is get a 36 in either the 007 or 009 and then actually hot-soak them. But, from the measurements they give on their website a size 34 and 36 both have the same exact rise (for the 007's). I guess the thing to do (if I want to stick with PBJ), is get a 36 raw in the 009's and hot-soak them. Then hem them and I'll be good to go? Hopefully? Maybe? Perchance?

In any event, it'd be nice to get some actual advice rather than "go buy some other brand" or people getting all melodramatic. They're just pants. They cover your balls in public. Lighten up.

To all the people talking about how it's my fault this or my fault that, or about all the disclaimers on their website about shrinkage: I didn't buy these jeans online. I was walking around NYC and stopped into their store. In person. Mano y mano. Face to face. In the flesh. I told them I had never touched, let alone tried on raw unsanforized denim before. They said go with the 34. So I did. But if I hot soak them, they will definitely NOT fit me anymore. So, in the future I guess I need to size up one or even two tag sizes. Right?

They actually do stretch back out in the waist pretty easily, but if they are really tight raw, you might have problems getting into them after the shrinkage from the hot soak. But if you can, the waist does stretch back out well.

 

[StevenisWhere]

You bought the one-wash pair... I just bought the same pair the other day. They've already been washed once... minimal shrinkage...

 

[whatever123]

Originally Posted by FourT6and2

Wow. A lot of drama over this.... I don't know why you are all so uptight and hostile. I certainly didn't mean to come in here and start drama. When I went to BIG I tried on a number of jeans from a few different brands. I liked the PBJ's the most. The two sizes I was considering buying were 34 and 36 raw. The 34's seamed a bit tight and I wanted to go up to a 36. However, I was told numerous times (quite clearly) that the 34 will "stretch out and be perfect." And that the 36 would be too big. I then asked, "These are unsanforized, right? They will shrink when I wash them, right? Shouldn't I size up to a 36?" They said. "No." So, I took their word for it. Even after clarifying again. They then offered to hem them and I said ok. I cold-soaked them once, for about an hour. No shrinkage. Since wearing them for a few weeks, they have loosened up in the waste about an inch or so. I've noticed no other changes, really. I don't plan on hot-soaking them now. Just cold water. I rather like these PBJ's (except for the tight crotch). I guess the ideal thing to do is get a 36 in either the 007 or 009 and then actually hot-soak them. But, from the measurements they give on their website a size 34 and 36 both have the same exact rise (for the 007's). I guess the thing to do (if I want to stick with PBJ), is get a 36 raw in the 009's and hot-soak them. Then hem them and I'll be good to go? Hopefully? Maybe? Perchance? In any event, it'd be nice to get some actual advice rather than "go buy some other brand" or people getting all melodramatic. They're just pants. They cover your balls in public. Lighten up.

To all the people talking about how it's my fault this or my fault that, or about all the disclaimers on their website about shrinkage: I didn't buy these jeans online. I was walking around NYC and stopped into their store. In person. Mano y mano. Face to face. In the flesh. I told them I had never touched, let alone tried on raw unsanforized denim before. They said go with the 34. So I did. But if I hot soak them, they will definitely NOT fit me anymore. So, in the future I guess I need to size up one or even two tag sizes. Right?
hang on, your claiming big told you they would not shrink? is that right? if this is indeed true, they were talking about the o/w pair ... which is indeed true, they would not shrink. there is NO WAY they would have told you the raw pair would not shrink. if your claiming that then your not telling the truth about the situation. pm me your name and date of purchase and i will ask them. and when you soak a raw jean, cold or hot, you get shrinkage ... NO MATTER WHAT. again, something inconsistent in your story ... i have no idea how you can claim a raw pair didnt shrink. but okay ...

i still think you should have listened to them and to me and got a 34. but you do what you want and when your walking around like a crack dealer you can thank me! no hate, just question stuff cause thats what i do

*i bet if they pull your order you will find out you indeed got a o/w pair, which would make sense* StevenisWhere is correct.

 

[FourT6and2]

Originally Posted by StevenisWhere

You bought the one-wash pair... I just bought the same pair the other day. They've already been washed once... minimal shrinkage...
My pair is not a one-wash. It is raw.

Originally Posted by whatever123

hang on, your claiming big told you they would not shrink? is that right? if this is indeed true, they were talking about the o/w pair ... which is indeed true, they would not shrink. there is NO WAY they would have told you the raw pair would not shrink. if your claiming that then your not telling the truth about the situation. pm me your name and date of purchase and i will ask them.
Well then there was an error in communication somewhere. I'm not lying. I'm not making things up. And I'm not leaving anything out or misconstruing what my experience was. And I'm not blaming BIG for anything. My plan is to buy another pair.

and when you soak a raw jean, cold or hot, you get shrinkage ... NO MATTER WHAT. again, something inconsistent in your story ... i have no idea how you can claim a raw pair didnt shrink. but okay ...

The pair I bought is raw. I soaked 'em in cold water in my bathtub when I got them home. I haven't noticed any shrinkage.

i still think you should have listened to them and to me and got a 34. but you do what you want and when your walking around like a crack dealer you can thank me!

I'm not sure why you're talking in past-tense. Let's make it really simple. I was in NYC. I physically walked into BIG. I tried on a bunch of jeans. The PBJ XX-007 in size 34 RAW fit me. The 34 ONE WASH was too small. I couldn't even get them on. The 36 ONE WASH fit me just like the 34 RAW. But the guy who helped me recommended I go with the 34 RAW. And that's what I did. Now I find out that they will shrink if I hot-soak them (which I supposed to do before I wear them?). That is why I'm asking what size I should get...

i bet if they pull your order you will find out you indeed got a o/w pair, which would make sense

Ok, I'm not sure how many times I can say the same thing. There is no "order." I walked into the physical brick-and-morter store and bought them. The pair I bought IN-STORE are the XX-007 RAW, size 34. Not the one-wash pair. I appreciate the help. I do. My question, STILL, is should I buy a pair of 36 raw and then hot-soak them? Or get a 36 one-wash? I tried a 34 one wash on in the store and they were WAY TOO TIGHT. So, if I did actually have a pair of 34 one wash by mistake, I wouldn't be able to get them on... Follow? Bottom line, do I get a 36 RAW, 36 ONE Wash or something else? You say I should get a 34? That's what I already have!

 

[afc345]

Thinking about taperin the legs of my 007s; anyone done this?

 

[whatever123]

Originally Posted by FourT6and2

My pair is not a one-wash. It is raw.
lol, so your the only person in existence that can soak a pair of "raw" jeans in cold water for an hour and not get any shrinkage ... wait ... thats BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT A ONE-WASH MODEL. so yes, you can go ahead and wash them how you want ... hot/cold/warm/dirty/clean water and they will shrink back to their new jean state. still dont believe me? take them back to big and have them pull your invoice ... lol! botton line? this was a total waist of time and people need to pay attention to what they buy. botton line (II): buy another brand and in the future ... PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU BUY

raw pbj's with a one hour cold soak will shrink down 1.5" in the waist and inseam. if you do a hot wash you might get another 1/4-1/2" of shrinkage or up to 2" shrinkage out of the raw version only . if you buy the o/w version you can do a hot or cold soak or wash and they wont shrink at all ... hence the reason why their one-washed. do you follow this?