Equire - funny you should mention it, I'm currently reading Ron Chernow's biography of Hamilton. A very interesting read, but I'm only into it about 100 pages. It seems shocking that Hamilton would have fired into the air. Why would he have done that? He would have known that it meant suicide or dishonor. And Hamilton was fiercely passionate about his reputation and being perceived as a man of honor. Horace:
1. As a WASP I find highly offensive your misuse of the term, your co-opting of it, and your employment of it as an umbrella term. Also, next time your visiting the old man, walk across the park to the other side, and you'll see quite a few WASPs.
WASP = White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. I used it both in this context, and misappropriated it as a more general term for the middle classes, which are now comprised of many races and religions.
2. Have you asked the bigots with placards where they live? Maybe they're displaced working class urbanites. You don't think that until recently the cities contained those who boycott these types of events? Until very recently cities contained all types. It was just with the entrance of nouveau-ubranites, those loft-dwellers and post-collegiates, that those who'd lived in the city for generations have been pushed out.
I asked them nothing and made a point of not communicating with them. The police asked us to avoid interaction with the crowd, and so we did. Many of them were wearing t-shirts with various christian slogans, so I would assume they did not live inside San Francisco. That city is a poor choice for christian bigots, and always has been. And your statement about displacement is erroneous. New housing and updated housing is generally built or restored in areas which have suffered some loss in popularity, where property can be picked up at a much lower cost. Those "noveau-urbanites" are well known among developers to bring great vitality to depressed areas, and as such, are quite popular. Nobody was ever forced out. Quite the contrary. If that was the case, than the depressed area would not be depressed, it would be booming, and property values would increase. As such, most city governments greatly encourage growth, bending over backwards to attract developers and "nouveau-urbanites" to fill space left void by previous residents, who rather than being forced out, fled to the burbs to find "tranquility" and "safety", or in reality, a standard of living which they did not consider possible in an urban environment (I believe a previous poster referred to this as "kicking up your feet and looking at a tree", something like that).
Re-reading your posts, I almost think they're satire. It's almost as if your apeing an obtuse young kid who's read a little Max Weber and Marx, gotten a few ideas, listened to a bit too much music bemoaning the 'burbs. It's a form of intolerant liberalism. And this is coming from someone who considers himself an FDR democrat.
Yes, I can understand that, although I would not describe myself as "obtuse", although my previous posts could definitely be described as such. The anonymity of the internet allows one to at times vent something in a way they never would in normal social interactions. In person, I am very well spoken and it would be rare to find me venting in such a manner. I was embarassed after reading my posts. And yes, I read way too much as a kid (Kropotkin, Goldman, Marx, Engels, Neitschze, the typical stuff for teenagers), and also loved music that expressed a very strong distate for the middle class lifestyle. I believe it was Manton who stated somewhere on this forum that there is a tendency in the upper-middle classes to aspire to upper class status and detest the middle classes, and take drastic measures to not be viewed as such. Somewhere, I might have picked up this mindset. I can relate to it, as embarassing as that might be. Definitely, the reason I came to this forum was to learn to dress in a fashion that would definitely not be confused with the mannerisms of the middle classes. I can admit that, on an obscure internet forum. I would never admit it in person. I had assumed, possibly erroneously, that other people attracted to the services of bespoke tailors and shoemakers would share that mindset. I know that it is pretentious, if you were to adhere to the dictionary definition of pretentious. I'm not extraordinarily wealthy, and I am unsure that I aspire to that, but I definitely do not want to be confused with any member of the middle classes. Bespoke tailors, shoemakers, fine restaurants, winemakers, they should all be grateful that people like me exist. It means nothing to me to spend $1000 on a pair of shoes or $4000 on a jacket, just to throw out some random numbers. I haven't seen any prices on clothing that would really affect my capital situation. It's not the price I care about, it is in large part whether this item is the very best and it's the way I feel about myself and my social status when I am wearing said item, and also how I will be perceived by others (along with, in huge part, the comfort and quality of the clothing). To see it in print like this is very distasteful, but I am being honest. I greatly enjoy fine things, but frankly, think about it: Why else do you think someone is so willing to drop $10k on a suit, without wincing like some penny-pinching prole? Either: A) they are a member of an extremely small group of people who have so much capital they no longer need to worry about it, and I'm talking about more than $50m here, or B) they want the very best in life and what it represents, which has very little to do with money, and view those purchases as a type of investment with great dividends. You can't buy good taste, proper manners, and a proper upbringing, but you better believe I'm going to make every attempt to change that if possible. That is also why I'll be one of the ones buying Manton's book (hurry up with it man.), and living by some of those rules. I want there to be no doubt in the minds of those I meet that my taste, intelligence, manners, and so on are reflective of a class greater than that in which I was raised. I mentioned it earlier, one of my first posts, my goal upon meeting someone is always to come across so SHARP they will not forget our meeting anytime soon. And that is why I detest chinos. I realize I am going to get flamed here, but frankly, it feels nice to admit all that stuff somewhere, and just get it off my chest.