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post #7516 of 8379
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

Yes I noticed the Thonet is in line with pricing of a Grand Repo. Both seem hard to stomach for a lounge chair.

Is there some golden rule for how much a lounge chair should cost?
post #7517 of 8379
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

That Thonet chair is dope, but $6k with the ottoman for fabric? $8k for leather?  Seems steep for a lounge chair - 50% more than the Eames.

The Eames has a wide price range, depending on wood and upholstery chosen.
post #7518 of 8379
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Is there some golden rule for how much a lounge chair should cost?

Off the cuff, I'd say more than 1.4k.
post #7519 of 8379
Move that decimal place one to the right biggrin.gif
post #7520 of 8379
can someone please tell me if the grand repo is comfy???
post #7521 of 8379
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post


Is there some golden rule for how much a lounge chair should cost?

 

I don't think there's a rule other than whatever the market will bear.  I just think at the $5k+ range you're solidly in couch prices.  I know you don't like Room & Board, but their stuff is well made in the US, and leather sectionals are in the $5-10k range.

post #7522 of 8379
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I don't think there's a rule other than whatever the market will bear.  I just think at the $5k+ range you're solidly in couch prices.  I know you don't like Room & Board, but their stuff is well made in the US, and leather sectionals are in the $5-10k range.

Not sure why Room & Board, whether one likes it or not, should serve as a benchmark for reasonable pricing.

For some, an R&B sofa is no different from a Knoll or Cappellini sofa that is twice the price. For others, the latter are different and better in some way, and therefore worth paying more for.
post #7523 of 8379
For what it's worth, some of our lounge chairs approach or exceed the cost of our sofa. Doesn't strike me as odd or wrong at all. We paid for what we liked.
post #7524 of 8379
New place must be a lot larger than the last if you have that many lounge chairs. Sounds nice.
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New place must be a lot larger than the last if you have that many lounge chairs. Sounds nice.

It is larger, but key is that our living room is more chair than sofa.
post #7526 of 8379
I'm not even 100% sure that thonet chair is being made.

I don't see any pictures of it actually being sat in anywhere except one of a guy testing out an obvious prototype and a few shots of samples at a trade show.
post #7527 of 8379
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I'm not even 100% sure that thonet chair is being made.

I don't see any pictures of it actually being sat in anywhere except one of a guy testing out an obvious prototype and a few shots of samples at a trade show.

Someone's always putting out a nice looking lounge chair. Picking one is hard because there are so many good candidates. Picking a lamp is hard because most are blegh.
post #7528 of 8379
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

For some, an R&B sofa is no different from a Knoll or Cappellini sofa that is twice the price. For others, the latter are different and better in some way, and therefore worth paying more for.


Obviously people will pay for something up to what they think it is worth.  My point is that I would find it hard to find a chair worth that much.  Ignoring the fact that a $8k chair is far outside my price range because I'm a small timer, let's use the Eames chair as a benchmark.  I can get one easily for $5k.  I haven't seen a design that would improve my happiness or appreciation of said chair more than having $2-5k to spend on something else.

post #7529 of 8379
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Obviously people will pay for something up to what they think it is worth.  My point is that I would find it hard to find a chair worth that much.  Ignoring the fact that a $8k chair is far outside my price range because I'm a small timer, let's use the Eames chair as a benchmark.  I can get one easily for $5k.  I haven't seen a design that would improve my happiness or appreciation of said chair more than having $2-5k to spend on something else.

That's fine for you. But you cannot extrapolate a universal "right" price for a lounge chair based on your personal preferences and budget.
post #7530 of 8379
Best I can tell, the original Eames was about 7-10% of the median household income at the time it was released (couldn't find a concrete price for late 50s early 60s, but that was the range I saw). But the lounge was also really the exception to the Eames' general goal of producing functional furniture that can be affordably reproduced. It was the luxury crown.

The current Eames is still about 10% of median household income (5k vs 50k)....so that has actually stuck pretty true. I'd wager that some of the other pieces that were meant to be affordable have actually crept up in real price, when they should have gone down with manufacturing improvements.
I actually get the feeling that a lot of these pieces are currently more expensive than they need to be, because they are still being made to the original specs, when the designers themselves would have welcomed manufacturing changes that reduced the price. Instead, with the notable exception of the shell chair (which still isn't exactly cheap from HM/Vitra), the only people bringing down the costs are the knockoff makers...but they typically cut too many corners and already have a reputation problem due to being unlicensed.

Foo may not care about the money, but I'd say that when you start asking more than 10% of the median income for a chair, you have to acknowledge that it is expensive. There may not be a golden rule, and there will always be people who can afford more, but unless you are going to say that poor people can just sit on the floor, there has to be room for something else.

Ikea's Aalto knockoff is actually pretty decent, but where do you step from there? Piob Chairs? Room and Board is at least accessible to many more people, and a better bet for the money than something like C&B. From the perspective of someone like the Eameses, a 10k chair might be beautiful and well made, but it's not a very "successful" design if nobody can actually afford to sit in it.
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