Any Ivy League Graduates?

Originally Posted by kwilkinson

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The kid knows he has no elitist credentials. It won't do any good trying to explain.

O, if the whole elitist thing is actually just a joke then I do apologize. There's absolutely nothing wrong with going to Ohio State. There's only something wrong if you're trying to be an elitist.

Originally Posted by SField

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I do admire that you are not shy about being self depricating and being good natured, but I think your east coast elitist thing really is something you're almost proud of. I just do hope you realize how pathetic that could look to real elitists who do in fact fit the stereotype. I don't think one is allowed into that club with a degree from a football factory in the midwest.

Harsh, dude.

Originally Posted by SField

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O, if the whole elitist thing is actually just a joke then I do apologize. There's absolutely nothing wrong with going to Ohio State. There's only something wrong if you're trying to be an elitist.

Not really a joke. He thinks he is an elitist while in reality he knows that's a load of bull.

Hang around, you'll grow to despise him just like the rest of us.

Originally Posted by kwilkinson

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Not really a joke. He thinks he is an elitist while in reality he knows that's a load of bull.

Hang around, you'll grow to despise him just like the rest of us.

Cunty wunty was a bear.

Originally Posted by bluemagic

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Do you like historiography? What is it like taking a graduate seminar? (I had a roommate who was very into that, but I never got the chance to do this. I was in one in my field for one day, but then realized I was in way above my head.)
I am rather obsessed with modern British & Irish historiography. few topics are as polarizing. There are brilliant Irish/British revisionist and tradionalists. Both are highly valuable. PM if you want more info about the field.

Originally Posted by rach2jlc

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to decorative walrus penises...

Four and a half foot long fossilized in Siberia. Sold for $8000.






- not an ivy leaguer

Originally Posted by kwilkinson

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Not really a joke. He thinks he is an elitist while in reality he knows that's a load of bull. Hang around, you'll grow to despise him just like the rest of us.

So, SField has 2 posts, but seems to know our dear Conne. Did somebody create a sockpuppet just to school Conne? Surely not... it's much more fun to PWN Conne directly and openly. It's no fun if he doesn't know who's dishing the dirt. That being said, if SField was just a longtime lurker who decided to come alive just to school Conne, then sir, I like what you're made of... And, as for the walrus dicks posted above... paging LK, paging LK (doesn't he have one?)

Originally Posted by bluemagic

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Well, UVa is in some ways more "Ivy" than some Ivies. I think it's terrific, by the way, and D.C. is run by UVa grads. What did you study there?

I was a Foreign Affairs (Political Economics) and French double major. I now go to a West Coast law skool.

i feel like undergrad education does not vary very much between schools, so name is the most important thing when choosing a college, the only exception being mit and caltech, which are pretty damn good at math/science

otherwise, its harvard/princeton/yale/stanford

don't bother with the other ivies, because at that point you are better off going to your state school for 120k less over 4 years, or getting a full scholarship to a well known but not "need-based aid" college, and working hard to get a good GPA

I have friends at Princeton and Brown and, in all seriousness, they are not learning any more than me. The majority of my professors here have been trained at Ivy league schools or their equivalents. I am really learning a lot.

Originally Posted by andyliu52

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i feel like undergrad education does not vary very much between schools, so name is the most important thing when choosing a college, the only exception being mit and caltech, which are pretty damn good at math/science otherwise, its harvard/princeton/yale/stanford don't bother with the other ivies, because at that point you are better off going to your state school for 120k less over 4 years, or getting a full scholarship to a well known but not "need-based aid" college, and working hard to get a good GPA
I'm definitely not one who cares WHERE one goes, from Community College to Oxford, so long as they get something from it and develop critical thinking skills, but I think this is a gross oversimplification/generalization and fails to take into consideration a student's hard work and effort to get into such a school. I'm of the belief that it's always best to go where you can afford/where is economically feasible/what fits your needs and just work hard, but there ARE reasons to choose a top 10 program beyond just "that the name sounds nice." Resources, research opportunities, internships, faculty, networking opportunities, etc. etc. etc.

Originally Posted by Connemara

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I have friends at Princeton and Brown and, in all seriousness, they are not learning any more than me. The majority of my professors here have been trained at Ivy league schools or their equivalents. I am really learning a lot.

There are serious and not-serious people at every school; and I think the upper limit of what you can accomplish is certainly not lower at a flagship state school (like Ohio State, UVa or Berkeley) than at an Ivy.

Originally Posted by bluemagic

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There are serious and not-serious people at every school; and I think the upper limit of what you can accomplish is certainly not lower at a flagship state school (like Ohio State, UVa or Berkeley) than at an Ivy.
I agree with this. My best friend went to Clemson (arguably the best S.C. public university) and did very well i nthe hist department. He graduated last year and is now enrolled in George Washington Law.

Originally Posted by rach2jlc

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one of the things that I like about SF is that it is always a healthy, but humbling, experience that is good for ALL of us. For example, no matter what the topic, there is almost always guaranteed to be a poster who knows more, has more, or IS more in just about every way...

Finally did I find a sig that matches the avatar. Thanks!

Originally Posted by rach2jlc

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I'm definitely not one who cares WHERE one goes, from Community College to Oxford, so long as they get something from it and develop critical thinking skills, but I think this is a gross oversimplification/generalization and fails to take into consideration a student's hard work and effort to get into such a school.

I'm of the belief that it's always best to go where you can afford/where is economically feasible/what fits your needs and just work hard, but there ARE reasons to choose a top 10 program beyond just "that the name sounds nice." Resources, research opportunities, internships, faculty, networking opportunities, etc. etc. etc.

for graduate i totally agree... but undergrad? lol

the thing is that if you are full scholarship at a wellknown but not top 10 undergrad college, you will definitely get preferential treatment... for example, i have a friend from high school at wake forest on full scholarship, and the school basically makes sure that he has all the best opportunities... another one of my friends at UNC has a similar package... and in no way do i think they have less opportunity than at an ivy, but they are paying 50k less per year

and my friends at state school (UT Austin) got great internships that paid really well this summer, just having finished freshman year, and all the big companies go recruit there, from facebook to google to goldman to exxon, so i don't think they are lacking in opportunities at all

finally, my friends from high school that went to harvard and stanford got crap internships or no internships at all, but at least they know it doesnt really matter since companies will hire them no matter what

i got a decent internship but it certainly didnt pay as well as the ones my state school friends got, then again i go to a tiny liberal arts college in the middle of nowhere

all this is anecdotal to be sure, but i think its representative of how things work