I have left this post intact so as to give credit where it is due, but emboldened the most nauseating part. Maybe I posted this already, but it deserves reposting: "Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country. It's the one job basically any woman can get and make a living on. The reason is because of their tips." --Harvey Keitel as Mr. White in Reservoir Dogs
To imply that every pizza driver and server should get in touch with their own inner entrepeneur for their financial success instead of busting their hump in hopes of tips from elitist ego-mongers whose own inner entrepeneur is on a power lunch is from the other side of the table is as laughable as it is insulting. Essentially, you are excusing your stiffing the people who serve you food because they can choose to do something else.
Will you keep food off the table for leaving $4 instead of $6 for your $30 tab? Not likely. But when you are spending $34, what is the difference of an extra $2 to you really? I am a server and feel that I do my job pretty well. It is a job that doesn't require any more special training than the few weeks' worth that the restaurant you work at will pay you for. It is a job that you can walk with cash money for a few hours of hard work. It is a job that once you have on your resume, it is likely you can get another wherever there is a restaurant hiring. But the fact that so many posts have dissertated on how most everyone who serves is a lackey whose hard work to ensure your food arrives at your table correctly and on time, that your drinks are cold and full is worth as little as can be got away with speaks most disparagingly of those who have written in kind. If you wish this for your legacy, you have it as it is. It's your entitlement, but, as Dave Barry said, "a person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person." I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but your posts make you suspect. I didn't get a college degree to refill your glasses and bring you dessert menus, and nobody else in the situation I am in is any different. I don't expect that my situation will garner your extra change, but I use it to keep the cash flowing. I work as a freelance graphic designer and wait tables to keep the bills paid, to finance a move to LA, and in that hopefully expand my existing clientele enough that I don't have take one table more than I have to. There are plenty of actors, musicians, grad students, and other people on their way to something bigger and better, who are courting their muses and inner entrepeneurs but need the financial bump that serving gives. What say you to these people? Don't feed us this entrepeneur line of BS again, it's not what we ordered. Take it back to the kitchen and bring us decency, on the fly.
Drew, I've highlighted the truly bullshit segment of your post, and included the original quote of my own that you should have read before you made that statement.
However, I tip on the post tax total. Where I am from, Kentucky, we have 6% sales tax (where I live, in Maryland, it is only 5%). In Kentucky, tipping on the post tax amount for a $20 bill adds $.15. Not a great deal. So, for a $100 meal, tipping on post tax will increase the total by a whole $.90. Ninety cents doesn't make a big difference in my life, but I assume that to a server, who in an eight hour shift will serve maybe fifteen or twenty tables, the additional $13.50 to $18.00 will make a big difference, especially considering that his marginal utility is considerably greater than mine (or that of the other patrons who I am hoping are putting the additional $.90 in their tip).
Note: this is based on the base-rate tipping of 15%, but I almost always tip at least 20%, unless service is really atrocious.
I suppose that my point was that you should tip reasonably within your means. If the difference between tipping pre- or post-tax means that much to you, don't do it. But if it isn't going to negatively impact your lifestyle, why not go for it?
You have taken my argument entirely out of context. You obviously haven't read my previous posts because I am the one on this board most in favor of tipping well, and on the post-tax portion of the bill, precisely because I am able and it means more to the person receiving the tip than it does to me. I have always been a friend to service industry workers. I have never made excuses for "stiffing people" because I don't do it, and I resent the implication that I do. My post that you find so "nauseating" was in response to Horace's suggestion that my parents, and other entrepreneurs, who have taken risks and worked hard, are no more worth of financial success than waiters or waitresses, and that is just bullshit. I've never proposed that members of the service industry should be shoved into the lower class and forced to live miserable lives, but I have argued against paying them a living wage, and in favor of tipping well, so that the rest of society doesn't join them in what would become miserable lives. You, and the service industry, had me as an ally in this battle over tipping. But perhaps I should make an assumption as ill-informed as all of the assumptions you made about me, and assume that you are all reactionary malcontents looking to blame me for all of your problems. Hopkins.