well, here they are pretty much exactly as I expected. If I had to guess, they look like somewhat old stock, possibly a couple of years old. Some of them have some brass green gunk and cordovan white wax residue which is wipe clean in a couple of minutes. Other than that they are 100% top notch. Only one pair included bags, which I'm pretty sure all Aldens come with so you are taking a gamble there. The rest look like they were possibly looked over but certainly never worn, they each have the box, paper, plastic bags, etc. Nothing was laced, I laced them myself. No outsole marks of any kind.