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post #151 of 294
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Originally Posted by Dashing1 View Post
I had a similar instance with a girlfriend once being grabbed (by the bouncer, no less).

I casually ordered a double watermelon (tho' any red drink would have done), walked in front of the guy, "accidentally" stumbled & pitched the drink on him, drenching his white outfit. (perhaps a less than subtle invite to a "duel")

He asked me what the deal was, and I told him that I must have been flustered thinking about the little twit who had grabbed my gal's arse. He insisted we go outside to settle the matter and tried to push me from behind as we walked out.

As a former boxing champ and a gentleman always interested in a fisticuff adventure (when challenged), I complied and kept my composure. As he got in my face, I asked him a question:

"What is 19 inches and bangs pussies?"

He drew in closer as I took the index finger on my right hand, traced a circle around the circumference of my left (19-inch) bicep and then, upon finishing the tracing, transformed the move into a sharp, short punch to the nose, whereupon (while his nose detonated in blood) I exclaimed, "Bang!"

He got the message. I left satisfied.

that sounded like something coming straight out of a movie.
post #152 of 294
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
And you'd be spending the rest of your life and the next seventeen reincarnations of said life in a nasty ole Japanese prison, too. Japan may be many things, but "lax" on its laws it is not and understanding of violent, vengeful "Gaijin" beating up their citizens they are not. Good lawyering or a swayable jury may be worth something in the USA... but in Japan, your ass is toast. I assume maybe you're being a little tongue-in-cheek or perhaps just playin' it up for the purposes of this thread, but if you are at ALL serious in what you posted, you need to get over those feelings quick. It's entirely possible some drunk horny salaryman might grope your "woman" on a train platform or on the way home and if you lose control, your life is over.
True, I was playing it up a bit, I would probably bump the guy into an oncoming train... like he jumped. I say woman because I get tired of saying fiance all the time. Im not gonna get all up on some dude like a GI in Okinawa or Roppongi but I would certainly, forcibly remove him from my vicinity. The thing that just really gets me going is if she is attacked by a salaryman in more a physical violent way, for being with a gaijin. I have heard stories about things seen to this effect. Just puts my blood in a boil. My school warned us about Japanese jail/prison and how they have a 99% conviction rate. Up to 23 days of harassment at all hours till a confession is filed is not my idea of fun.
post #153 of 294
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Originally Posted by ratboycom View Post
True, I was playing it up a bit, I would probably bump the guy into an oncoming train... like he jumped. I say woman because I get tired of saying fiance all the time. Im not gonna get all up on some dude like a GI in Okinawa or Roppongi but I would certainly, forcibly remove him from my vicinity.
I figured you were playing it up, but just in case I wanted to say something. I know from posting with you on other threads that you're a good guy and I know you care a lot about your fiance/girlfriend, so I just wanted to make sure you kept in mind that conflict resolution in Japan is a VERY different thing than conflict resolution in the USA. I'd hate to see you, in a moment of irritation, do something that would screw everything up. As I've mentioned on other threads, I remember hearing about an American teacher who got caught with just a little bit of pot on him once and, after spending time in jail, went to court and got deported. All in all, that little bit of pot cost him (IIRC) something north of $10K, in addition to the humiliation and the jail time. If you think that's bad, just see what they do for assault (especially assault by Gaijin... which is probably its own legal category!) Japan just doesn't fuck around when it comes to legal infractions.
post #154 of 294
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Originally Posted by Étienne View Post
If the setting was similar to the one you were in, I'd feel the person grabbing is sleazy. If the setting was different, or if, as in your case, he compounded by not apologizing in anyway, I'd feel more strongly and say he's a douche. Since this is not a physical threat, I would probably respond non-physically. Presumably after having discussed about the proper reaction with the gf (amazingly, I sometimes allow mine to have an opinion and express it).
Good to know that a strange man groping and grabbing your wife isn't a physical threat to her. I find it amusing, yet unsurprising, that you would have to ask your wife's permission before defending her.
post #155 of 294
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Originally Posted by lance konami View Post
before defending her.
I've not said anything about this yet, but it's really quite amazing how much volition and will we're taking away from our "women" on this thread. I'm glad those delicate little flowers you guys date need you to protect them so much, because obviously they are incapable of doing it themselves. Oh, my, the weak and tender sex might get "the vapors" if you weren't there to keep them from getting hysteric. How do your women survive on a daily basis without you? Obviously I don't have a wife/girlfriend, but I can tell you that what my sister would do to the man who, uninvited, gropes her ass and tells her "you liked it" is FAR worse than anything she'd need to ask ME to do to him. Further, if I ran in and told her, "Hold on there, allow me to defend you, sweet maiden" she'd then probably follow up kicking HIS ass by kicking mine for good measure.
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Originally Posted by distinctive View Post
How would you have handled the situation?
Here's how I would have handled it. I'm comfortable with myself, with my masculinity, and I trust my partner completely... so I really can't see under any circumstances the need to have physically confronted the guy. 1) My partner comes up to me and says, "OMG! Some guy just grabbed my ass." I would say, "Well, it's because you have a nice ass. Let's have another drink." We laugh, have another drink, go home and have a big time. Don't even think about the douche who did the grabbing. 2) If I'm feeling especially frisky, I might even send the guy who grabbed my partner's ass a drink. I might do that and, in taking him the drink, look at him and say, pointing to my partner, "And THAT'S the ass that I'm taking home tonight. Enjoy your drink and your lonely car ride home." And then give him both a thumbs up and a big ol' shit-eating grin. You both laugh; the guy feels like a douche or realizes that YOU are the lucky one, and you don't stand any chance of going to jail.
post #156 of 294
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
I've not said anything about this yet, but it's really quite amazing how much volition and will we're taking away from our "women" on this thread. I'm glad those delicate little flowers you guys date need you to protect them so much, because obviously they are incapable of doing it themselves. Oh, my, the weak and tender sex might get "the vapors" if you weren't there to keep them from getting hysteric. How do your women survive on a daily basis without you?

Obviously I don't have a wife/girlfriend, but I can tell you that what my sister would do to the man who, uninvited, gropes her ass and tells her "you liked it" is FAR worse than anything she'd need to ask ME to do to him. Further, if I ran in and told her, "Hold on there, allow me to defend you, sweet maiden" she'd then probably follow up kicking HIS ass by kicking mine for good measure.

Surely you must realize your sister is the exception. Most men are bigger and stronger than most women, and most men can get away with doing shit like that without the threat of them getting violent in return. Case in point, the OP. I'm not saying that there aren't women who will and do and can cause a world of pain on the guy, but let's be realistic here.
post #157 of 294
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Originally Posted by Brian278 View Post
Surely you must realize your sister is the exception. Most men are bigger and stronger than most women, and most men can get away with doing shit like that without the threat of them getting violent in return. Case in point, the OP. I'm not saying that there aren't women who will and do and can cause a world of pain on the guy, but let's be realistic here.
I guess it's just that I'm accustomed to being around a family of VERY strong women, but I just can't imagine a woman these days playing into the whole "My big ole strappin' man protects little ol me!" routine. My sister is 5'4 and 120 pounds, maybe... 99% of her strength comes from her personal attitude... okay, and some from the years of martial arts/kickboxing classes. But, still, I just think that playing into the whole "DEFEND MY HONOR" bullshit holds up. If women want equality and equal rights, then handle this shit on their own. And I don't mean she needs to beat the guy up... but go to a bouncer, go to a police officer, etc. Asking your man to step in and 1) potentially get killed or 2) potentially get arrested seems a little strange to me.
post #158 of 294
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Originally Posted by Dashing1 View Post
As a former boxing champ and a gentleman always interested in a fisticuff adventure (when challenged), I complied and kept my composure. As he got in my face, I asked him a question:

"What is 19 inches and bangs pussies?"

He drew in closer as I took the index finger on my right hand, traced a circle around the circumference of my left (19-inch) bicep and then, upon finishing the tracing, transformed the move into a sharp, short punch to the nose, whereupon (while his nose detonated in blood) I exclaimed, "Bang!"

He got the message. I left satisfied.

On the bouncer's behalf, I should think it would take a rather brave man to call out a fellow sporting muscular 19-inch biceps!
post #159 of 294
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
I guess it's just that I'm accustomed to being around a family of VERY strong women, but I just can't imagine a woman these days playing into the whole "My big ole strappin' man protects little ol me!" routine.

My sister is 5'4 and 120 pounds, maybe... 99% of her strength comes from her personal attitude... okay, and some from the years of martial arts/kickboxing classes. But, still, I just think that playing into the whole "DEFEND MY HONOR" bullshit holds up.

If women want equality and equal rights, then handle this shit on their own. And I don't mean she needs to beat the guy up... but go to a bouncer, go to a police officer, etc. Asking your man to step in and 1) potentially get killed or 2) potentially get arrested seems a little strange to me.

I think you are lucky enough to see this more rationally because you're gay, and you don't have to worry about proving your machosity to some fish.
post #160 of 294
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Originally Posted by Eason View Post
I think you are lucky enough to see this more rationally because you're gay, and you don't have to worry about proving your machosity to some fish.
Very good point; the dynamic of the relationships are quite different, if not "biologically" (which I don't even know what that means), then certainly socially in relation to expectations, needs, roles, etc. Anyway, it's not all a jog in the park. Gay guys have to worry about proving something much more sinister: both excellent fashion sense and also a running knowledge of the past four seasons of "Project Runway."
post #161 of 294
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post
On the bouncer's behalf, I should think it would take a rather brave man to call out a fellow sporting muscular 19-inch biceps!

His options were a bit limited, as if he didn't call me out, he would be saturated in red humiliation for the rest of the evening (appropo for the rude gesture to my gal) and would have to roast in it in front of witnessing clubgoers and those yet to enter the club. His second option was to try and act tough, push me from behind on my way out, and tell his friends about how he manhandled some guy out of his club.

He failed to consider his third option, which was to attempt to push me around and to be subsequently thrashed for the liberty taken. I suspect he called it a night after his second round of red splattered uncerimoniously across his shirt. I also suspect he thought twice before ever grabbing an unknown gal's tush again--just a hunch!
post #162 of 294
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
I've not said anything about this yet, but it's really quite amazing how much volition and will we're taking away from our "women" on this thread. I'm glad those delicate little flowers you guys date need you to protect them so much, because obviously they are incapable of doing it themselves. Oh, my, the weak and tender sex might get "the vapors" if you weren't there to keep them from getting hysteric. How do your women survive on a daily basis without you?
Yes, I've heard it enough from feminists that women can protect themselves, that they don't need men for anything at all, that they can do everything men can do, that they can do everything men do better than men, and that men who try to protect women are just trying to assert their dominance over women and display their masculinity because of their deep rooted insecurity. I've heard it all. Aside from the fact that protecting women and children has always been one of man's evolutionary roles, there's another component to this that I haven't mentioned yet. Women are irrational. If you're ever in a situation where she feels threatened by someone, and you do not step in to defend her, at least verbally just to say "Step back. Leave her alone," even if you can see the situation clearly and know that by doing so you would be taking a substantial risk, she will resent you on some level. She will loose that sense of security she had with you. She will act like you "did the right thing," but deep down, she will resent your failure to act in a crucial moment. Protection in times of threats is a very primal thing. If you don't provide that for her, in some form, she will question you. She won't see the situation logically. She'll see it emotionally.
post #163 of 294
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Originally Posted by lance konami View Post
Women are irrational. If you're ever in a situation where she feels threatened by someone, and you do notstep in to defend her, at least verbally just to say "Step back. Leave her alone," even if you can see the situation clearly and know that by doing so you would be taking a substantial risk, she will resent you on some level. She will loose that sense of security she had with you. She will act like you "did the right thing," but deep down, she will resent your failure to act in a crucial moment. Protection in times of threats is a very primal thing. If you don't provide that for her, in some form, she will question you. She won't see the situation logically. She'll see it emotionally.
I really WANT to take issue with this... but dammit... I think you just may be right... Luckily, I don't have to worry about this stuff; aside from having to listen to my sister on the phone when she's mad at her boyfriend... I can avoid their irrationality altogether. Even amongst all the very strong women in my family, nevertheless literally the ONLY times when logic, reason, good sense, etc. fall out the window and they become whiny little girls are in relation to the men in their lives (dad, brother in law, boyfriend, etc.) Likewise, though, it seems like so many men tend to become irrational Douchebags when it comes to their "women." Is this what "love" and relationships do to us?
post #164 of 294
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Originally Posted by lance konami View Post
Yes, I've heard it enough from feminists that women can protect themselves, that they don't need men for anything at all, that they can do everything men can do, that they can do everything men do better than men, and that men who try to protect women are just trying to assert their dominance over women and display their masculinity because of their deep rooted insecurity. I've heard it all.

Aside from the fact that protecting women and children has always been one of man's evolutionary roles, there's another component to this that I haven't mentioned yet. Women are irrational. If you're ever in a situation where she feels threatened by someone, and you do not step in to defend her, at least verbally just to say "Step back. Leave her alone," even if you can see the situation clearly and know that by doing so you would be taking a substantial risk, she will resent you on some level. She will loose that sense of security she had with you. She will act like you "did the right thing," but deep down, she will resent your failure to act in a crucial moment. Protection in times of threats is a very primal thing. If you don't provide that for her, in some form, she will question you. She won't see the situation logically. She'll see it emotionally.

I suspect you're right. All the more reason to avoid places where idiots congregate.
post #165 of 294
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Originally Posted by j View Post
Heh. I was talking about your sweet testosterone-soaked video. yeah, when you randomly flail and smack someone, you should get your, and your buddy's ass punched into the hospital. That's the world I want to live in. Dudes walking around thinking about how much the internet matters, just waiting to prove their manliness and how they totally aren't internet dandies or whatever.

OMG I am so going to start referring to myself as an internet dandy.
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