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Horace, http://www.bmpdesign.com/ CR, when I was in the industry I belonged to quite a few of them, and I started one of the largest automotive forums on the interest (www.supraforums.com) which I sold a bit later on.  I'm not really involved in the automotive aftermarket anymore.
drizzt, you appeared to have been successful in a number of ventures. Key things you may feel like sharing i.e. lessons learned, mistakes to avoid etc. Maybe we can have a style and mentoring forum. -
post #32 of 50
Bavarian Autosport is pretty good, I've done some business with them as well. I would recommend either, BMPD is a good resource though, I used them for sourcing many of my products for BMWs. Oscar, Thanks for the kind words, I'm not entirely sure I'd be the best role model as I've had my share of humbling failures as well, but persistence and recognizing your strengths/weaknesses are traits that may prove useful in the long run.
post #33 of 50
You should check out the Mercedes SLK-350. It'll blow the doors off an M3 (for less money) or an Audi, not to mention being terribly sexier and a whole helluva lotta fun.. How do I know the SLK-350 will smoke an M3? 'Cuz I've done it. Ha ha ha ha. The M3 has a soft-top convertible roof, which is ridiculous considering the price. The SLK-350 is a hard-top convertible, with a pneumatic roof control that should last much longer. It also comes with heated headrests that blow warm air on your neck when driving on a cold day with the top down. I test-drove an M3 when looking for a car, and was not terribly impressed. The performance is not much better than a Lexus IS300, and the look is bland. IMO, BMW's are overpriced because a lot of people want them. I consider the Mercedes a vastly superior car at a lower price and much higher entertainment value. Also, BMW has a fairly good mechanical record until you hit 100k miles. Then, they are notorious for being quite tempermental. That was another one of the reasons I went with the SLK-350.
post #34 of 50
Oh yeah, forgot to add one thing... I'm going to upgrade to the SLK-55 AMG, so I'll be selling my SLK-350 in about 6 months probably, if anyone is interested... heh heh.
post #35 of 50
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Oh yeah, forgot to add one thing... I'm going to upgrade to the SLK-55 AMG, so I'll be selling my SLK-350 in about 6 months probably, if anyone is interested... heh heh.
Actually that falls in line with your thinking...once the car is old and has Poor performance, you sterilize it. Jon.
post #36 of 50
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You should check out the Mercedes SLK-350.  It'll blow the doors off an M3 (for less money) or an Audi, not to mention being terribly sexier and a whole helluva lotta fun..  How do I know the SLK-350 will smoke an M3?  'Cuz I've done it.  Ha ha ha ha.
Unqualified assertions that car X will blow the doors off car Y are worth exactly what you pay for them.  Each person has his own criteria for evaluating a car and so such statements rarely apply.  I suspect you meant that the SLK-350 has better straight line acceleration than an M3.  Whether or not that's true, put a few bends in the road and it becomes a completely different ballgame. dan
post #37 of 50
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You should check out the Mercedes SLK-350. It'll blow the doors off an M3 (for less money) or an Audi, not to mention being terribly sexier and a whole helluva lotta fun.. How do I know the SLK-350 will smoke an M3? 'Cuz I've done it. Ha ha ha ha. The M3 has a soft-top convertible roof, which is ridiculous considering the price. The SLK-350 is a hard-top convertible, with a pneumatic roof control that should last much longer. It also comes with heated headrests that blow warm air on your neck when driving on a cold day with the top down. I test-drove an M3 when looking for a car, and was not terribly impressed. The performance is not much better than a Lexus IS300, and the look is bland. IMO, BMW's are overpriced because a lot of people want them. I consider the Mercedes a vastly superior car at a lower price and much higher entertainment value. Also, BMW has a fairly good mechanical record until you hit 100k miles. Then, they are notorious for being quite tempermental. That was another one of the reasons I went with the SLK-350.
Actually, MB build quality is down from what it was. My dad's S55 AMG was a piece of shit. Kompressor broke twice; first time it needed a full overhaul, second time it needed to be replaced entirely. Computer was no better off; constantly popping up messages to take the car in for service or that something was not working when it was. And then, when something did in fact break down, the computer failed to report it. Even my crappy Mazda, which costs like a 6th of the Benz, doesn't have that problem. Not to mention the Command handbook is about the length of a Leon Uris novel. Interior parts don't fare much better with plastic hinges and ill designed / ill-fitting parts. I was in my friends Audi A8 when my dad still had the Benz, and it was like a Bentley compared to the S55. Jon.
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(linux_pro @ Mar. 07 2005,16:38) Oh yeah, forgot to add one thing... I'm going to upgrade to the SLK-55 AMG, so I'll be selling my SLK-350 in about 6 months probably, if anyone is interested... heh heh.
Actually that falls in line with your thinking...once the car is old and has Poor performance, you sterilize it. Jon.
Now you have to come over here to clean the soda pop out of my keyboard. Too funny.
post #39 of 50
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(imageWIS @ Mar. 07 2005,15:46)
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Originally Posted by linux_pro,Mar. 07 2005,16:38
Oh yeah, forgot to add one thing... I'm going to upgrade to the SLK-55 AMG, so I'll be selling my SLK-350 in about 6 months probably, if anyone is interested... heh heh.
Actually that falls in line with your thinking...once the car is old and has Poor performance, you sterilize it. Jon.
Now you have to come over here to clean the soda pop out of my keyboard. Too funny.
I'll be right over... Jon.
post #40 of 50
I'm rather fond of MB's new offerings, I sold my E55 last year when I bought my 911T but it was a nice car, and a bit underrated for power. I don't think straight line acceleration was considerably worse than that of the Porsche, and it was a decent handling car for what it was. I also like the SLK32 and 55 series convertibles. I think testimonials about relative acceleration potential of cars is not extremely useful, as there are too many variables, but analyzing the cars' trap speeds will be pretty telling. SLK350 13.62@103 M3 13.53@107 This makes quite a bit of sense with similar weights and about a 50 hp advantage for the m3, it's likely that the MB's superior torque at lower rpms allows it to accelerate better during the first 60' which will greatly affect actual ET. It's not unreasonable to assume that a SLK-350 would outaccelerate a M3 on any given day, looking at that information, but when both cars are moving the M3 has a decided advantage (and as dah328 mentioned, is a much better handling car) BTW, I have seen stock M3s running in the low 13s in good conditions, the info I received was from car magazines, so they will generally be a few tenths slower than the actual potential of the car.
post #41 of 50
All I know is my personal experience. My SLK-350 has no cheap-fitting plastic parts, and I believe you are mistaking it with the older SLK-230's on a number of points. It's handling and performance are as good as the M3 non-convertible I test-drove before it, and I drove both of them very hard (as in taking a parking lot with concrete islands at 35-40mph, and a sharp freeway onramp at 90mph, to the point that the sales people were begging me to ease off). The SLK-350 has noticeably snappier response in the low-end (greater torque it seems in the lower RPMs), the "punch" you get from hitting the gas is noticeably stronger than what I felt in the M3. I have had no mechanical problems with mine at all, and my father's SL500 has had no problems to this point (5 years old, 120k miles) and it is a daily driver. I can't say all MB's are great, just that the one I drive is very solid. I think you are confusing the SLK-230 and the SLK-350. Check out this article which relates to the actual SLK-350, a dramatic step-up from the SLK-230: http://www.caranddriver.com/article....id=8117 The primary reason I bought the SLK-350 was for the convertible hardtop. I've had a soft-top ripped with a box-knife before, and ate the $5000 it cost to fix it. Unpleasant. I had planned on buying the M3 convertible but it's handling was not as good as the SLK-350, and it just didn't have the same sort of "punch" to it. You'd have to drive them both to get a good sense of what I'm talking about here, it's more of a "feel" thing than a "numbers on paper" thing. And when my SLK-350 got too old, I wouldn't sterilize it, I would euthanize it. Give that sweet chariot a dignified death. Heh heh. Cars like that should die with pride, rather than going out with a whimper.
post #42 of 50
linux, I've driven both cars (as well as nearly everything in both manufacturers' product lines) I was recently invited to a MB test drive session here at El Toro, where they set up handling and performance courses for quite a few of the cars in their product line, including the SL55 AMG and the SLK350. They had a SL65 there, but didn't let us drive it on the course I think the SLK350 is a pretty nice car, and it does have a pretty decent punch to it, and its handling is improved over the SLK-230 but it's not as good a driver's car than either the convertible or coupe M3s, IMO. BTW, I've driven a E46 M3 coupe at Buttonwillow before (when it first came out) so I have quite a bit of seat time in that particular car, it, along with the M5, were cars I considered when I bought my E55. I can see how it would appear to be a faster car, what you're feeling is the low rpm torque spike, but perception and reality are two different things. If you drove a LT1 based camaro/firebird, you'd feel a much stronger torque spike, accompanied with breaking the rear end loose upon a sharp application of throttle, and you'd think the car felt faster, but you wouldn't get much more than 14.2-14.3@100 or so out of it.
post #43 of 50
Maybe I drove some abused M3's. I was really surprised that the one I test-drove seriously seemed to have about as much "kick" to it as my IS300, which surprised me. They performed almost identically. I was expecting a lot more. The decision to pick up the SLK-350 was made because I thought it just seemed more "fun", and also the hardtop (a HUGE factor). Like I said earlier, I am surprised that BMW does not offer a convertible hardtop, it's the only option that makes sense to someone worried about car theft. Anyone who has had a soft-top get ripped open knows how heartbreaking and expensive that can be. Also, I love the features on my SLK, such as the heated headrests and the awesome navigation. The heated headrests though, above all else, really won me over too. Here in Seattle, they see a lot of use. I'm really happy with my SLK though, I would highly suggest that someone at least look at one before purchasing an M3. They are tons of fun, and women tend to notice them (everybody's got a BMW, but how many people have power convertible hardtops? Heh heh). That had nothing to do with it actually, but it's a nice added bonus. I am jealous of your Porsche. I have dreamed of getting a 911T or a 1981 930T, or a 1985 930T, or a 78 RSR (a friend of mine in San Diego has a beautiful RSR he picked up with dot com cash). It's just that when I've actually gone to do it, I couldn't justify the cost for how often I would actually use it (and the fact that I mostly drive in the city). But I will own one before I die. Heh heh. How do you like yours? Have any tickets?
post #44 of 50
Actually to those who know me, it is surprising that I haven't received a ticket for a moving violation since I was 16 (13 years of high speed driving w/o tickets) The porsche is a nice car, I use it for weekend driving, it's quick and has pretty good handling, and is more or less fast enough for most things you want to do. I own quite a few faster cars though, I outlined most of this in the "cars" thread also in this forum, but IMO the 911T represents the best value in the "exotic" category, with only a few other cars that are even close. I'm assuming that your SLK350 is a 6 spd and that the M3 you test drove was as well, is that right? A I mentioned, MBs are nice cars, and I am sure others have made the same decision. Also, keep in mind that the M3 is a high revving car and you won't get as much performance out of it as the MB if you are not taking it to redline and keeping your revs somewhat high (I'm only saying this relative to the more torquey SLK350, obviously it's not a honda)
post #45 of 50
I'm the last person to care about customer service. But if you want to avoid some headaches, then I'd recommend avoiding BMP Design. Ordered a month ago parts for a BMW. Haven't received. 5 e-mail messages unanswered. 2 phones calls in which the rep. said she'd get back to me unreturned. Today I find out items not yet ordered from suppliers. More a disappointment than a terribly bad experience, but still.
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