Originally Posted by Andre Yew
The reverse is actually true. A middle-of-the-road car can keep up or beat the hottest crotch rockets on twisty roads, because a car has more grip and can outbrake and outcorner a bike. For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UDXcotDqDs
Ok... when I see a person driving a car like that on a regular road, I'll believe you. And since when is a Porsche 911 a middle of the road car? Beat that same bike in a stock Mustang. Or a BMW 325i. Then we'll talk. The 911 is an exceptional car. Especially when you are trying to find a car that will beat a motorcycle on a curvy road. That, the WRX STi, An Audi or two, and the Nissan GT-R are pretty much the only things I can think of that would have a chance in a real world situation. And out of those, pretty much only the STi owners would give it everything they've got at the risk of demolishing their car on a roadside boulder to try and beat someone on a halfway decent bike. A real person, can't power slide through a blind corner on a real road. The Porsche would never catch that bike unless the Porsche driver was a suicidal maniac. Who corners at that speed in the oncoming lane of traffic on a real road? Plus crotch rockets aren't really necessary (or ideal) for twisties in real world situations. Turns out, that those "fun" roads usually are not maintained as often as you'd like for a track smooth ride. Someone in a Multistrada, V-Strom, or KTM would probably smoke you AND the Porsche as you slowed down for gravel, and they sped through it without even breaking a sweat. I've never seen a driver willing to corner on a regular road at over a hundred and twenty miles per hour. Theres such a thing as oncoming traffic, cement barricades, lanes, and etc. that the driver in the car has to pay attention to. The bike is more maneuverable, and in any real world condition a bike should easily beat a car on a twisty road. Plus, that was one lap. Who knows what happens when that race is repeated? Fastest production vehicle lap time on Nurburgring: Car: 2009 Viper SRT-10 7:22.1 Chrysler conducted test, Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option, non-stock race seat with a six-point harness, suspension alterations, aero adjustments, video confirmed Bike: 2009 MV Agusta F4 R312 7:21.8 Not saying that its unequivocally true that a bike will beat a car, but again, all out speed is not the issue here. Arguing that point is missing the bigger picture. The cycle is more FUN. And whether you are the fastest thing ever or not is irrelevant - you feel faster because you aren't in a cage.