Originally posted by RJman:
... Cleverley RTW is very good quality -- there have been debates about who makes it. T4phage is the authority here. Likely Crockett & Jones Handgrade with a few Edward Green-made models. Although one Japanese site appeared to suggest the Cleverley models were Grenson Masterpieces. All are extremely good shoes.
Thanks for your confidence RJman
, but I have only one pair of RTW Cleverley's, but have more of their bespokes. I think Bengal-Stripe would be the expert. In my own humble opinion I have seen some that look to be C&J handgrade shoes (although on a different last), with the same nailing and rubber heel insert. Others that I have seen look very much like EG in terms of the nailing and rubber insert at the heel (the older EG, not the newer type heel with the nails outlining the rubber insert). Also seen some like the Grensons but without the circular window insert.... Seems as if Cleverley has been using a large number of makers.